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Old 09-26-2005, 12:42 AM
whitelime whitelime is offline
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Default JJ, all-in preflop?

UTG is joneze. 29/12/3. Short stack is a fish. Anyone like the shove here?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $40, SB (poster) calls $35, BB calls $180 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $340</font>, Hero calls $1144 (All-In)
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Old 09-26-2005, 01:33 AM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Re: JJ, all-in preflop?

you will seldom be ahead and be screwed when you are not.
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Old 09-26-2005, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: JJ, all-in preflop?

I'd be more inclined to fold. If UTG is isolating with AK, he's not likely to fold to your push. Most other hands beat you pretty soundly--maybe you could knock QQ out (I don't know this particular player and it would definitely depend on how he plays), but I don't think it's worth it. Reraising the open is a good idea though.

You probably won the hand one way or another, since when people post non-2+2-weak-tight-aggressive-standard hands, it's usually showing off (I'm guilty of doing this a few times). Poker is pretty much luck so it doesn't matter what you do I guess.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:43 AM
mgsimpleton mgsimpleton is offline
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Default Re: JJ, all-in preflop?

i don't think he's folding very much here given you flat called the first raise... also his minreraise back sort of looks to me like him saying "im reraising to isolate with not very good hand (or else i'd flat call!) so push, you still have folding equity!" with a solid hand... but that's just how i would read it against a tricky opponent. i really dont think he lays anything down here unless he knows you to flat call preflop raises with AA/KK.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:50 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: JJ, all-in preflop?

F o l d
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Old 09-26-2005, 10:22 AM
jrforman jrforman is offline
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Default Re: JJ, all-in preflop?

Not all of us are familiar with Joneze, so reads/history would be good...Barring any reads/history I think this is an easy fold with UTG virtually limp-reraising (I know he min-raised preflop). You are only getting called when your way behind and you might be behind the SB too. Pick a better spot to stack UTG.
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:47 AM
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I'd fold that so fast it would make heads spin.
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