What do these AF numbers mean for this player?

[Lmn55d]

Ok after 200 hands opponent is 22/0.6 (yes 0.6 PFR) with postflop AF of 0.2/0.9/2.7. What does this river AF of 2.7 mean?? Does he just slowplay all decent hands till the river? Does he bluff a lot? Would this opponent ever bluff raise the river?

[MarkD]

It means that in 200 hands this opponent has not gone to the river enough times for the AF to converge at all.

It means that the number is unfortunately useless for him atm.

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Ok after 200 hands opponent is 22/0.6 (yes 0.6 PFR) with postflop AF of 0.2/0.9/2.7. What does this river AF of 2.7 mean?? Does he just slowplay all decent hands till the river? Does he bluff a lot? Would this opponent ever bluff raise the river?

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Generally, that means that breaking aggression factor into 3 separate streets is counter-productive unless you have more than 10,000 hands on your opponent. After 200 hands, that 2.7 number may reflect a few river bets and only one call.

[Lmn55d]

really, is this true? So I shouldn't be looking at AF Street by street???

[ArturiusX]

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really, is this true? So I shouldn't be looking at AF Street by street???

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Not unless you have a sizeable sample.

Hell, there's a case for not looking at AF at all.

[StellarWind]

I cut my teeth against these tight/passive spiders at Paradise. He makes his money by trapping people like us. It's a valid winning strategy for low-limit full ring play although this particular player may be taking it too far. The better ones have a more balanced game than these numbers would indicate.

Many of these players trade on their images to steal river pots when their draws bust. No stat can diagnose this however. You just have to watch him.

[MarkD]

This is a good point that Our House made. I think I may stop looking at AF street by street. It takes a long time for AF to converge per street.

For your villian:
22% VPIP in 200 hands means that he has seen about 50 flops. Let's say he goes to the river 40% of the time. He has had 20 opportunites to act on the river. If he folds to a river bet 30% of the time then he has ony 14 opportunites to act on the river.

Your stat could mean that:
the river went, check, check 3 times, bet 8 times, called 3 times. Is he agressive? He might be, or he might have been on a lot of draws that have come in. That would also explain his really low AF on the other streets.

[StellarWind]

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For your villian:
22% VPIP in 200 hands means that he has seen about 50 flops. Let's say he goes to the river 40% of the time. He has had 20 opportunites to act on the river. If he folds to a river bet 30% of the time then he has ony 14 opportunites to act on the river.

Your stat could mean that:
the river went, check, check 3 times, bet 8 times, called 3 times. Is he agressive? He might be, or he might have been on a lot of draws that have come in. That would also explain his really low AF on the other streets.

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I don't exactly disagree with any of this but it isn't very relevant because there is no need to speculate. PokerTracker has actual numbers for all the different river actions that OP should be looking up.

[MarkD]

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For your villian:
22% VPIP in 200 hands means that he has seen about 50 flops. Let's say he goes to the river 40% of the time. He has had 20 opportunites to act on the river. If he folds to a river bet 30% of the time then he has ony 14 opportunites to act on the river.

Your stat could mean that:
the river went, check, check 3 times, bet 8 times, called 3 times. Is he agressive? He might be, or he might have been on a lot of draws that have come in. That would also explain his really low AF on the other streets.

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I don't exactly disagree with any of this but it isn't very relevant because there is no need to speculate. PokerTracker has actual numbers for all the different river actions that OP should be looking up.

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Such as what? What numbers should OP be looking up?

[StellarWind]

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Such as what? What numbers should OP be looking up?

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All that stuff to the left of River AF. Total number of river actions and percentages for each of the five choices. Fifteen bets, six calls, and two folds is much different from five bets, two calls, and sixteen folds. But it is the same AF.