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Old 09-25-2005, 08:28 PM
Drontier Drontier is offline
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Default No reads, line?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, UTG calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: No reads, line?

of course turn T made my job easier, but otherwise Im in a very interesting position. Btw button is too loose, kinda dumb but attempts to think.
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: No reads, line?

Absent a read- I don't like 3-betting an UTG raise with ATo, beyond that it's a pretty standard poker hand.
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:33 PM
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in my mind it was close, but I don't really mind if he has a stronger hand than mine (as long as its not AA KK QQ) as I felt at the time I was a much better postflop player. He was actually I believe pretty tight, but I had a very tight image as well.
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:35 PM
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in my mind it was close, but I don't really mind if he has a stronger hand than mine (as long as its not AA KK QQ) as I felt at the time I was a much better postflop player. He was actually I believe pretty tight, but I had a very tight image as well.

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Those sound like reads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Outplaying somebody post flop or not, if he's got a better hand, isn't folding and not losing any money a viable way to out play him? How often are you pushing him off a better hand HU?
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:41 PM
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man dude, its just this hand was played a few days ago and I'm blanking out a bit. I do recall villain having a very low pfr, (between 11 and 17, yea yea thats a huge range) and I recall him being a thinking player, but kinda weak. I surely don't mind if he has 55-99 KQ KJ even AJ AQ.
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:08 AM
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I fold this preflop w/o a read, turn / river are standard.
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:20 AM
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really really dont 3bet preflop. even if you know how the raiser plays it has to be a very strange situation for the 3bet to be right. the rest is fine but preflop is terribly ugly.
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