top pair decent kicker in multiway pot

ep510 · #1 09-25-2005, 05:41 AM

SB is 37/7/1 over 900 hands
MP1 is 69/12/1.3 over 80 hands

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero?

keetz555 · #2 09-25-2005, 06:18 AM

Check. I have never bluffed two calling stations with any success?

You don't have top pair, though.

newhizzle · #3 09-25-2005, 06:32 AM

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Check. I have never bluffed two calling stations with any success?

You don't have top pair, though.

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betting here is not bluffing, its value-betting, and these guys will call here with a lot of hands you can beat, i bet

ep510 · #4 09-25-2005, 09:10 PM

The catch here is that, if you check, what do you do when MP1 bets and SB calls? Are you able to fold here?

If not, then would leading be better?

TaintedRogue · #5 09-25-2005, 10:13 PM

I think re-raising the SB's ck/raise is in order on the flop. I don't believe the two players after you have a better hand than you, and the SB was in perfect position to raise with a flush or pair/gutshot draw.

ep510 · #6 09-25-2005, 10:28 PM

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I think re-raising the SB's ck/raise is in order on the flop. I don't believe the two players after you have a better hand than you, and the SB was in perfect position to raise with a flush or pair/gutshot draw.

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Couldn't a T, two-pair, or set check-raise this flop too? Just because he checked turn doesn't mean I had that info on the flop.

QTip · #7 09-25-2005, 10:29 PM

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SB is 37/7/1 over 900 hands
MP1 is 69/12/1.3 over 80 hands

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero?

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I like raising the turn.

#8 09-25-2005, 11:29 PM

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SB is 37/7/1 over 900 hands
MP1 is 69/12/1.3 over 80 hands

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero?

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I like raising the turn.

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I agree.

Delzek15 · #9 09-25-2005, 11:42 PM

Would it be ridiculously bad to lay the hand down when he leads out on the turn?

ep510 · #10 09-26-2005, 04:23 AM

Ok. And if MP1 and SB both call, you check-fold this river if MP1 bets?