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Old 09-24-2005, 09:07 PM
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Default The all powerful 84s

Marginal plays all around, I think. Maybe it's standard, though. I dunno.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (7.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: The all powerful 84s

Flop call may be a little thin, but it looks good to me.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: The all powerful 84s

The flop call is close because it looks like there's a pretty good chance you'll have to pay 2 bets to see the turn. I can't really make a strogn case either way though, so I'd call. Looks fine.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: The all powerful 84s

~9.5:1 isn't enough to get me to call this preflop. Well, maybe once in a blue moon if the table is really loose and passive.

Flop and turn seem OK to me.


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Old 09-24-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: The all powerful 84s

I didn't think I'd get check-raised very often. This isn't a board that the PFR would be comfortable checkraising on, especially with only 2 players left to act. He also wouldn't want to risk giving a free card with the hearts on board. So I was relatively sure I would only pay one bet and thus be getting 12 or 13-1 on the flop call, with only one of my 5 outs being slightly tainted.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:17 PM
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~9.5:1 isn't enough to get me to call this preflop.

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I'd call any 2 suited here.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:20 PM
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I didn't think I'd get check-raised very often. This isn't a board that the PFR would be comfortable checkraising on, especially with only 2 players left to act. He also wouldn't want to risk giving a free card with the hearts on board. So I was relatively sure I would only pay one bet

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When a preflop raiser checks a flop not being the last to act I think it's foolish to not conisder the chances of seeing a check raise to be higher than usual.

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one of my 5 outs

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I don't like this statement at all.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:37 PM
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~9.5:1 isn't enough to get me to call this preflop.

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I'd call any 2 suited here.

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Oh what the hell. I posted a thread listing preflop examples like this and everyone and there mother says fold, now people say call.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:39 PM
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~9.5:1 isn't enough to get me to call this preflop.

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I'd call any 2 suited here.

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Oh what the hell. I posted a thread listing preflop examples like this and everyone and there mother says fold, now people say call.

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Link?
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:47 PM
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~9.5:1 isn't enough to get me to call this preflop.

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id literally call any 2 suited (like evan) and i'd call a ton of good connectors too.
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