move to vegas or what?

Ok so I don't get it. Everyone says vegas is tougher than average, get really good before you go to vegas, etc. However I just spent a week there, and to be honest, I am no longer as comfortable as I once was playing online or in local home games, as I feel I have a much higher chance of losing in them despite knowing i'm an overall winner.

The fact is, I never _dreamed_ games could be as soft as they were there. It depended entirely on the casino I also discovered, as I played a few games at the wynn and the mirage that were just as tough as any i've ever played personally, but in the cheaper, less known rooms with less attractive waitresses and dirtier chips, I don't see how you can go wrong.

I tripled my bankroll in about 35 hours of play, and i'm convinced it wasn't a freak occurence, though I certainly am not drunk enough on my success to believe this can be an average expectation, but once again the fact was that I really had no concept of a 'soft game' before this, (in retrospect) it was simply incredible to me how easy it was to take money from these fish, and how rarely they called with even any kind of draw left to them at all... has anyone else had this experience and what should I do before I move out there? Met a guy while there who claims 1/2 NL is better than anything except super high stakes if you can afford it and that he's been playing it exclusively for two years averaging better than 50k which previously i'd have never believed really... either way, vegas kicks major ass and I was considering moving there even before I was up any money.

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

dont move there.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

You really don't know what you are talking about and will regret it if you go through with this. Maybe eventually this will be a good decision, it isn't now. If you do go through with it let 2+2'ers know, it might help your tips.

Wow you were able to determine so definitely that I have absolutely no clue what i'm talking about from just the information in that post that you could make a completely insulting blanket statement and feel no need to even provide a scrap of reason to your position? Man.

Well, maybe I still really have no clue what i'm talking about after 5 years of serious, profitable play and steadily earning more than I ever have in a 'real' job, but I know enough to think maybe you should give me a little more detail on this insight you seem to have, or else just try and provide some kind of actually useful response, or just shut up in the first place if you haven't got anything... perhaps I should summarize what i'm looking for to help you out:

1. Vegas was not what I expected, in terms of average player competence, and has anyone else found this to be true compared to their home games?

2. Is it possible that a low limit game of 1/2 NL actually contains so very many players of such very poor ability that it might in fact be more profitable than limits up to say 5/10 or 10/20 where several good players are chopping up just one or two fish at the table and trying to squeeze what they can out of each other in the mean time?

3. Pros and cons of living in vegas with soft games as a lifestyle benefit, not a reason to move.

If you haven't got something to say in relation to this, don't bother saying anything at all.

You can do it! -Rob Schneider (watch an Adam Sandler movie)

lol thanks oh and incidentally once again i'm not considering moving there to be a pro 1/2 NL player for god's sake, like I said was thinkng of going there anyway, love poker, games were stupid soft, and it got to be an even more attractive idea. Don't really want/need to make a living at it:P

[lefty rosen]

If your willing to live cheap and take a 6 month shot. Go for it. Try to get a roommate and live well below your means and try. The worst you could do is fail. From what I heard the softer games are at the tourist traps and local games are full of rocks. But then again from knowledge of gambling many degenerates are attracted to living in any gambling city and work as cabbies or whatever and donate whenever they can get to a table.... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[ThaHero]

If you aren't moving to play poker professionally, and you will have another job, then I say go for it. I'm in Vegas frequently, and I personally love the city.

If you are moving to play pro, I suggest you read Dynasty's posts on his living there, if you haven't already. There's also a couple blogs floating around of players that live in Vegas and are "pros". But as a general rule, if you have to ask if it's a good idea, generally it may not be.

[goofball]

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1. Vegas was not what I expected, in terms of average player competence, and has anyone else found this to be true compared to their home games?

2. Is it possible that a low limit game of 1/2 NL actually contains so very many players of such very poor ability that it might in fact be more profitable than limits up to say 5/10 or 10/20 where several good players are chopping up just one or two fish at the table and trying to squeeze what they can out of each other in the mean time?

3. Pros and cons of living in vegas with soft games as a lifestyle benefit, not a reason to move.

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1. Vegas games are tougher than almost all home games. They are way way softer than most online game for comensurate levels.

2. I have no idea what the NL games in town are like, however most people buying very deep in 1/2 are good.

3. Pros
-I haven't set an alarmclock in 8 months
-I am free to hang out with friends who come to town
-I don't have to report to anyone or satisfy anyone with my work
-I have lots of free time

Cons
-It's tough when you lose for a long time. It's very very tough. It's harder emotionally and physically than you can imagine and you'll probably at one point lose longer than you can imagine.
-It's tough to meet people and make friends. Most people I meet are in town for the weekend
-Sleeping till 2 and going to bed at dawn tends to make you feel like a degenerate
-I have lots of free time.

[lehighguy]

To much rakes, tips, and other expenses for 1/2 NL to be profitable. Yes they're exceedingly horrible players, but it doesn't matter if your winning 20bb/100. You're playing like 40 hands an hour or something live(maybe less). Plus all those expenses.

2/5 NL is kinduv a money suck. Get good enough to play 5/10 NL if you really want to win money live.