Folding top pair top kicker. Can I do this?

gamblore99 · #1 09-18-2005, 12:57 AM

Villain is 75/12/1.28/103
Villain had only 3-bet once, he showed down aces. At this point in the game, he was usually pretty passive on the flop...

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero ..

[edit: as you can see, its not top kicker

fyodor · #2 09-18-2005, 01:13 AM

In the decks I am used to the Queen wouldn't be top kicker. Usually there is an Ace or 2 in the deck.
And I think this guy has one of them.
Fold away.

New001 · #3 09-18-2005, 01:25 AM

That seems like a bad flop raise.

gamblore99 · #4 09-18-2005, 01:30 AM

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That seems like a bad flop raise.

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Could you possibly elaborate?

kahntrutahn · #5 09-18-2005, 01:32 AM

I disagree...

kahntrutahn · #6 09-18-2005, 01:34 AM

If you are really afraid of aces, call down after the flop action and take a note of what he showed down... if its AA, then you have a good case for respecting his LRR... however, you are good more often than not IMO... donks like this LRR with all sorts of [censored]

New001 · #7 09-18-2005, 01:41 AM

yeah. I'm not sober.

odawg09090 · #8 09-18-2005, 01:58 AM

I too don't like the flop raise. You're not afraid of very many cards (only an ace). This seems like a way ahead-way behind situation. If you're ahead, you want him to keep betting. If you're behind, you don't want to put in more money to raise and POSSIBLY (as in this case) give up an entire pot if he decides to go crazy. Even tho his preflop numbers are LPlike, his postflop agression of 1.2 is rather agressive for that preflop VPIP of 70+. With position, I like a call call call and bet when checked to line.

exist · #9 09-18-2005, 01:59 AM

what he could mean is that this is a way ahead way behind situation. your raise could shut down a bluff and just cost you money against a favorite LRR hand AA.

kahntrutahn · #10 09-18-2005, 02:05 AM

Thats reasonable... come to think of it, I might take that line in 10/20... but this is 5/10 *shrug*