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Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP1 calls. Flop: (7.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 9.50 BB. Villain is a donk, 35/10/0.5 |
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
What is with these river folds lately?
Fold the turn or call the river, those are your options. What are you hoping for, to spike a 9? 35/10 means plays 35% of his hands, 10% of all hands preflop raise right? I wonder what that translates into for average hand strength... I know against a guy who plays almost every hand here I would be raising, and i guess he raises most of his good hands so you're probably alright here. I would have to see 35% at the table to get a feel for what his hand range is, but I'm a fan of this move. I play it the exact same way you do (preflop depends, I'm not sure exactly what 35%/10% translates into of course), but I call the river gladly sure I'm good well over 30% of the time here. |
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
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What is with these river folds lately? Fold the turn or call the river, those are your options. What are you hoping for, to spike a 9? 35/10 means plays 35% of his hands, 10% of all hands preflop raise right? I wonder what that translates into for average hand strength... I know against a guy who plays almost every hand here I would be raising, and i guess he raises most of his good hands so you're probably alright here. I would have to see 35% at the table to get a feel for what his hand range is, but I'm a fan of this move. I play it the exact same way you do (preflop depends, I'm not sure exactly what 35%/10% translates into of course), but I call the river gladly sure I'm good well over 30% of the time here. [/ QUOTE ] I pikced up a double gut on the turn. And this guy betting means he has top pair beat |
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
I don't think k9o is good enough to isolate the type of player you describe.
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
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I don't think k9o is good enough to isolate the type of player you describe. [/ QUOTE ] What's your minimum? |
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
Against a 35 VPIP player I think I'm isolating with A10o+, KJo+, 77+ or so I think. Not sure if that is standard or not, just my feeling that 35 is not super high. I guess it really would depend on what type of hands he has been limping and how he plays post flop. If he is really weak tight I think the K9o becomes more playable.
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
looks good to me
edit: pf is probably questionable, but i dont mind it actually, how many hands do you have on him? if not too much id rather call the river |
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Re: Questionable river, actually questionable every street?
I like it. Folding the turn is bad, folding to the flop 3-bet would be better than folding the turn.
PF raise is iffy big time. Do you really want to isolate a loosish aggressive player? KJ, maybe KTs I make this play, K9 is marginal, but if you are a good postflop player. Calling the river is not that bad, but folding...eh, yeah, it's correct. |
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