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Old 09-12-2005, 04:27 PM
chopchoi chopchoi is offline
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Default 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

I have KQo in BB.

A LAG raises from MP, a calling station calls, and I call. The LAG likes to raise with any ace or any pp.

Flop is AKx. I know if I bet into the LAG he'll raise no matter what he has, so I check, the LAG bets and the callin station calls.

Call down, fold or what?
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:47 PM
Vote4Pedro Vote4Pedro is offline
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Default Re: 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

Regardless you have odds to make the call on the flop w/ your 5-outter getting 8.5:1. You mentioned that the LAG likes raising with any PP or Ace, but is he capable of betting 99 or whatever on a AKx flop? Also, give us an example of why you consider the other villian a "station". Have you seen him coldcall before?
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

i would call the flop and fold the turn unimproved if he bets again.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

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Flop is AKx. I know if I bet into the LAG he'll raise no matter what he has, so I check ...

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That's a perfect reason to bet not check.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:13 PM
2+2 wannabe 2+2 wannabe is offline
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Default Re: 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

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Flop is AKx. I know if I bet into the LAG he'll raise no matter what he has, so I check ...

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That's a perfect reason to bet not check.

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yeah you should be betting to raise out the LPP
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: 2nd pair vs. a LAG and a calling station

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Flop is AKx. I know if I bet into the LAG he'll raise no matter what he has, so I check ...

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That's a perfect reason to bet not check.

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yeah you should be betting to raise out the LPP

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hmm...interesting thoughts- why? if we're not already behind to the LAG, do we think LPP are folding an Ace here? what are we trying to fold here?
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