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Old 09-09-2005, 06:19 PM
Rubeskies Rubeskies is offline
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Default QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

Amazing table. Great lineup. What do we do here?

CO is 78/33/1.1
SB is 80/20/.7
BB is 65/0/.3


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Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero??????
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:21 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

I'd bet and hope he raises.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

i'd also bet, but I really don't think this is the sort of table where you want to be raising QTo in MP.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:42 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

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i'd also bet, but I really don't think this is the sort of table where you want to be raising QTo in MP.

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I agree. Fold PF and bet/3-bet the flop.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

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i'd also bet, but I really don't think this is the sort of table where you want to be raising QTo in MP.

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uhhhhhhhh why not?
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:20 PM
DawnToDusk DawnToDusk is offline
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

Ya. Hope he helps to protect your hand by raising. I would 3bet that flop if he did raise too.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

I would bet on flop.

PF I think you are better off limping here. Given these opponents, raising won't get them out and when you raise the pot is big enough that they are getting the right odds to call on most flops (and they definitely will call). If you limp then they are making a mistake calling when you hit the flop and the miss. Also, if you miss the flop then you have invested less.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

well you're not gonna be able to steal blinds or get it headsup so you're almost never gonna be able to take pot unimproved after flop. So if you are gonna raise, it should be because you have an equity edge. Although these guys will call two loosely, I don't think you have the requisite equity edge to raise since you're gonna be OOP postflop.

I'd say Folding &gt; Limping &gt; Raising. Limping at least keeps the pot small allowing you to maximize the errors people make postflop. It also doesn't give anyone the chance to 3bet you with a better hand. You are a good playear though bugstud. Maybe my thinking is flawed?
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: QT confusion, what\'s your plan?

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i'd also bet, but I really don't think this is the sort of table where you want to be raising QTo in MP.

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uhhhhhhhh why not?

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IMO such loosies will call with all kinds of junk (Axo, KXs), but be correct to do so.
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