stupid 3rd steet play

[jon_1van]

Does anyone like this completion?

7 Card Stud High ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

[PoorLawyer]

I don't really like it because this one seems to fall under the theory that you want a lot of people in the hand with your drawing hands, especially since there is a dead Ace so you aren't likely to make aces or better here.

[djr]

It would have been better if you had the ace as your doorcard. It's not horrible, but not a great completion either.

[Bartholow]

I've seen worse, but I'd be more likely to make this raise if the ante were larger.

[BeerMoney]

You should have 3 bet.

[beta1607]

with a dead Ace and two dead [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

I think you should limp here. I like completing if my clubs are totally live and there is no dead ace.

[Roland]

I usually fold on 3rd.

[jon_1van]

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I usually fold on 3rd.

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really? That tight? I made the completion and immediately didn't like it, but I never considered folding.

How would you play if ::
-2 dead clubs, live Ace
-1 dead club, 1 burned Ace
-I'm gonna assume you raise the other scenarios

[Roland]

It really depends on how tight/loose/passive/aggressive the table is.
In any case though, I hate playing semi-dead flush draws in early position. Granted, sometimes the whole table will limp behind you which is great. But more often you end up calling a completion and then every time you miss on 4th you’ll have to make a very close decision. I guess I just hate those 4th street situations where, basically, both options suck, and try to avoid them.


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How would you play if ::
-2 dead clubs, live Ace

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I like it better, but not a lot.

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-1 dead club, 1 burned Ace

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I limp every time.

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-I'm gonna assume you raise the other scenarios

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I still usually limp. A seven and a nine aren’t all that great. Getting heads-up with the queen or something is okay, but I like multi-way better.

[Andy B]

This is a call. Two clubs are gone as well as an Ace. Also, the ante is small. Folding is too tight, in my opinion, unless it's a tough game, and why play in a tough $5/10 stud game?