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Old 09-02-2005, 11:56 AM
chumdawg chumdawg is offline
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Default Am I supposed to get involved here? ($22)

I wasn't sure what to do...

***** Hand History for Game 2638575078 *****
100/200 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 15375133) - Fri Sep 02 01:09:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 15002 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5

Seat 3: RachDog13 (645)
Seat 4: tpneal (555)
Seat 6: chumdawg3 (2950)
Seat 8: jtollison78 (1580)
Seat 10: endeavour441 (2270)

jtollison78 posts small blind (50)
endeavour441 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chumdawg3 [ As, Qs ]
RachDog13 raises (645) to 645
RachDog13 is all-In.
tpneal calls (555)
tpneal is all-In.
chumdawg3 ???
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:01 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: Am I supposed to get involved here? ($22)

pro:

u have 2-1 odds and you'll have 4k going into ITM if u win the hand

con:

u lose stealing ability...if u win it, the other 2 will be itm...if u lose it, u won't be big man anymore and u could get blinded down to short stack in a few rotations if u get bad cards
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:01 PM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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I would call here. I hate calling with AQ, and I especially hate overcalling with it, but I think this is a good spot. If you lose, you're down to ~20 BB still. Calling here improves your chances of busting one of those guys, and if neither of em bust at least one guy is down to 1.5 BB.

You're probably up against like Axs and some PP. Or KJs, ya never know. I think the chance to knock out two people, but leaving yourself in a pretty good position if you lose, makes this a place to call.

And actually by call I mean push over the top. Gigablock theory holla
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:03 PM
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22's...with small stacks like that...I would call. They are getting desperate...I would almost guarantee that you are ahead of the first guy and it is likely you are at least in a coin flip with the second guy...anyway, unless one of them has you dominated you will win more than 1/3 of the time.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:03 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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yeah, any call has to be you pushing...don't wanna give other guys 3-1 odds to call
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:05 PM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default Re: Am I supposed to get involved here? ($22)

I would call here for "Gigabet" reasons. You gain more than you are risking if you happen to win. There is a good shot the first guy has KQ and the second has 10s or something like that.
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:38 PM
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As much as AQ has been my nemesis, I push all my chips in here to play three-way against the wimpy stacks. The initial raiser is a short-stack who knows he is in the blinds next hand. His range of pushing hands is immense and your AQ is probably golden. The caller is a little scarier but he too is desperate and justifiably thinks this is a good spot to double up against the equally desperate pusher.

These facts combined with 3:1 pot odds and the chance to knock two out,you have to like your AQ in this spot. but you must push to keep the blinds from calling. And with the bubble approaching and already 3 in the pot, the blinds would typically need a monster starting hand to call all-in.
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:03 PM
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Call (well, push actually). You're getting about 2.5:1. Also, if you win, you've got third locked and are a huge chip leader ITM. Perhaps most importantly, both stacks are very desperate and probably are doing this with a wide range.
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Am I supposed to get involved here? ($22)

I'd call. I think AQ is a reasonably strong hand vs what they are going all-in here. Ax, small pairs etc. And if you lose, it has almost zero effect on your FE.
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