ITM pot odds questions

kevkev60614 · #1 09-02-2005, 08:59 AM

In both of these, the 2 villians are awfully tight. I found that raising preflop made both fold very frequently. Villian to my left, in particular, refused to play all but the best hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) converter

Button (t3615)
Hero (t7670)
BB (t2215)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button raises to t600, Hero calls t500, BB raises to t2190, Button folds, Hero calls t1590.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter

BB (t3265)
Hero (t7980)
SB (t2255)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1200, SB raises to t2230, 1 fold, Hero calls t1030.

How'd I do?

durron597 · #2 09-02-2005, 09:03 AM

In the first one, if they are both playing very tight I would fold QTo in the SB because you are going to be out of position for the rest of the hand and you could already be dominated. If I was going to play it, though, I would just push over the top.

In the second one, I would just push the JTo preflop. Your effective stack is less than 10xBB because both of your villians stacks are, so you should just push it.

ldavidjm · #3 09-02-2005, 09:06 AM

I'd just muck the Q10 but after I've called with that action as it was I'm calling.

J10 I'd just shove, if you're going to call the shove might as well get it all in first.

theordinaryboy · #4 09-02-2005, 09:12 AM

your calls after his all-in raises are fine.

Your original raises are also fine, however, if you are going to raise perhaps all-in raises are better.

As you are going to call if he puts you all-in you might as well get maximum folding equity by pushing in the first place. However if as you say they are very tight i would presume they are calling your all-ins with these 2 examples anyway.