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Old 08-31-2005, 09:58 PM
Hoi Polloi Hoi Polloi is offline
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Default KJs -- strong draw played weakly

3-bet the flop for a free card? Raise the turn? Or is this ok?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: KJs -- strong draw played weakly

I ran this through pokerstove and put the villain on all 2pair combos, all sets, and both overpairs, as well as AQ (all hands he would seemingly play this way), and you are still ahead, although its damn near 50/50, so yes, raise for value as well as a possible free card if you so choose.

By the way, is this how all you mad geniuses go about figuring out the best plays when reviewing these hands? I'm new to the in-depth analyzing, just trying to get a good grip of it.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: KJs -- strong draw played weakly

I'd threebet the flop, turn and river are ok imo
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:26 AM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: KJs -- strong draw played weakly

The flop 3-bet is easy and basically free. You don't fear a cap, and a free card is really helpful when you need it.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:51 AM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Re: KJs -- strong draw played weakly

I love these super-draws. 3-bet the flop for value and for fold equity. I wouldn't take the free card though unless he was passive and straightforward enough that he will almost always have a queen here, or that he almost always has a pair and will never ever fold it. But against the typical 5/10 player I think you have some fold equity, so follow through with the turn bet. And given the turn card that did come, I would bet that every time.

Given your flop play, I like the line you took.
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: KJs -- strong draw played weakly

easy 3 bet on the flop imo, you have two huge draws and position
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