Bot article in Wired

[Bodhi]

There's an article in wired about "winholdem," a bot for sale to anyone who has $100. Pretty scary stuff, especially since these guys use 2 computers, one with the bot software, and the other to log onto party.

They won't let you read the article online until 8/26: http://www.wired.com/wired/

[Bodhi]

That no one has replied to this post shows a disturbing degree of denial among us here.

[whiskeytown]

there was a previous post on this 3 days ago - I've read the article in the magazine and discussed it in another post -

maybe when there's real news out there you might see some actual talking about it - RB

[Bodhi]

Did you check out their webpage? It's crazy how they have different versions, such as the $200 team package that facillitates collusion. Maybe we can have a more lively discussion once the article is available online for free.

If your worried about winholdem, why not go and download it and take the 24hr trial?, its laughable. Basically its like an automated texas calculatem, it comes with a preset list of starting hands which can be tweaked by the user, if you go and read the forum, (links in the bot software), there are basically 95% of users on a break even bot that uses the preloaded playing rules, then there are about 5% who claim to have coded playing rules that win about 1 BigBet an hour, then they load it up on as many tables as poss and hope to have 10 tables making 1 BB an hour on 3/6 limit.

The funny thing is its so simple for the poker rooms to spot bots (very long hours at multi tables is a good indicater, plus style of play) and so simple to f*** them up, because the bot is really designed for the user to load up and then go off and do other stuff, bed etc, all the poker room has to do is flash a pop up "5K Freeroll tonight dont miss it!" in the middle of the table over the cards and it basically screws the autoread until the user come along and remove the pop up. If your REALLY worried play PL or NL cause it only work (badly) with limit!!

Cheers.

[fimbulwinter]

this is one part of the NL vs Limit debate that makes me very happy.

fim

[shant]

Dude, most of the guys on that winHoldem forum are sad dorks who make posts like "hey my bot made $11 last month after 8-tabling for 19 hours a day." I don't see their stupid bots as a threat, and they'd be better off spending their time learning poker. Also, Party does a good job of keping up to date on their stupid workarounds for hiding their bots so I really don't see this as anything to worry about.

[turnipmonster]

I think it is maybe pretty generally accepted it is far simpler to write a NLHE bot to play short stacked than it is a limit bot.

[Sniper]

The article is really all old news. Anyone reading these forums is well aware of everything covered in the article.

[gabbahh]

This winholdembot seems to be a rule based system.
These rules are created by ppl...
So these rules are no better then the FOOL who created them.
So now instead of some fool using a set of RIGID rules, now a RIGID computer is applying them...
Sounds like a tough nut to crack.
Rite