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Old 08-28-2005, 07:05 PM
bkm bkm is offline
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Default Monster pot being created what do I do?

$10+1 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t1255)
Hero (t865)
Button (t830)
SB (t975)
BB (t825)
UTG (t820)
UTG+1 (t1095)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t580)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t75</font>, BB calls t75, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, Hero calls t150, Button calls t150, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t945 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t795, Hero ????

With 2 people already All-In, I guess I have the odds to chase the nut flush, but is it the right thing to do?
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Old 08-28-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

At the moment you have 25% of your stack in the pot and 2/1 chance to double up, I think you have to call here with the nut flush draw
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Old 08-28-2005, 08:15 PM
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Yes it is the right thing to do and it's not close.
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Old 08-28-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

Why not raise preflop?

You have position on the limper and AJs is a strong holding enough to raise against one limper on the 10+1.

On the flop you must call.
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Old 08-28-2005, 09:23 PM
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Am I an idiot for wanting to fold this after the reraise by UTG+1 to 150?

My reasoning is that:

1. with raise and reraise, I'm not gonna make my hand for cheap and bust them for alot of money anymore.

2. If I fold I still have 830 chips to play with, far from crippled.

3. Most importantly, I wanna get to the bubble where I can outplay them.

Is my thinking terrible? BTW I completely understand and agree that going all in there is not the wrong move at all. Im just wondering about my approach.

- Brian
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

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Yes it is the right thing to do and it's not close.

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Please try to back up your sweeping statements.
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

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Yes it is the right thing to do and it's not close.

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IT's NOT CLOSE THAT YOU'RE AN AMAZING TURD.

This goddamn phrase has got to go. Especially from idiot newbies with -5 posts.
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

If you've got the odds (maybe plus some more, considering payout implications), you call.

Here, with a nut flush draw, and overs that should be good some of the time, I think this is a pretty clear call.

However, I would have just pushed initially. Having 9 outs to the nut flush and 4-5 outs out of overs means you can semibluff very profitably there.
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

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If you've got the odds (maybe plus some more, considering payout implications), you call.

Here, with a nut flush draw, and overs that should be good some of the time, I think this is a pretty clear call.

However, I would have just pushed initially. Having 9 outs to the nut flush and 4-5 outs out of overs means you can semibluff very profitably there.

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I agree here. I think you need to push or fold before that t150 call. I like calling here the least of your 3 options.
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot being created what do I do?

I think you're against at least a set and have around 7 outs on average because there is guaranteed to be two diamonds here somewhere, but since it's an 11 and this is donkeyland I call anyway.

At a 109, I think I would fold, and to take a page from a newbie above, it would not be close.
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