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Old 08-25-2005, 09:31 AM
Marlow Marlow is offline
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Default Basic QQ preflop problem

6 max 2-4

Hero (~400) who is only 15 hands into session opens for 14. Folded to button (~375) who raises pot (50ish total)

Button has been pretty quiet for the first 15 hands. So has hero.

Ick. I can't find one appealing option. What's the usual plan here?

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

call, see a flop, play poker.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

I should have specified that I never considered folding. This seemed too out of the question to even exclude in the OP.

I'm torn here between reraising and calling. I did, in fact call here, though I wondered if I had anything to gain by potting this.

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Old 08-25-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

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I should have specified that I never considered folding. This seemed too out of the question to even exclude in the OP.

I'm torn here between reraising and calling. I did, in fact call here, though I wondered if I had anything to gain by potting this.

Marlow

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3-betting QQ preflop in a cash game is, in general, a big mistake.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

id fold.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

In general it takes a stronger hand to re-raise than to open-raise. This means a couple of things. You have a much wider range of hands that the Button, and Button should have at least AA, KK, QQ, AKs. Of course the range could be wider, or much wider.

It's just a preflop re-raise. It's not like he insulted your mother. You're very likely behind, could be ahead, but call, see if you can find fame and fortune in the flop.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:31 PM
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id fold.

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This is suprising, but very good to know that some people take this route.

Thanks,

Marlow
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Basic QQ preflop problem

w/out a read, i could see this possibly being a fold - but not sure what I'd do in heat of battle. Seems like it will be a very marginal to -EV play vs. a standard 2-4 reraiser.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:02 PM
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if you have reads, this can be the easiest fold ever. against an unknown, no way i fold.

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Old 08-25-2005, 02:04 PM
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f you have reads, this can be the easiest fold ever. against an unknown, no way i fold.


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I agree w/ this statement at 5-10 and up. But when I used to play 2-4, a vast majority of reraises were AA-QQ,AK (even AK wasn't that likely). This may be different now but that was my experience when I played that level like over a year ago.
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