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$109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
Villain hasn't gotten out of line.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter CO (t1010) Hero (t1385) SB (t1240) BB (t1935) UTG (t825) UTG+1 (t1180) MP1 (t1415) MP2 (t1010) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t500</font>, What the... |
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
This smells like a mid pair frightened of seeing a flop to me, or just perhaps AK, but the times you'll be shown the mid pair make up for that. Shove.
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
look at it this way, when would you feel dumber?
a) when you fold and he shows J3o b) when you call/push and he has aces |
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
I don't think he has AA here. How has he got the +180 chips? Was it with a mid pair and if so how did he play it? If not, what was it with. Key points but even then I can't believe this is AA or KK. Why would he play it like this? Unless it's the old reverse psychology, but even then he's relying on someone picking up a relative monster for it to work - and that just doesn't happen often enough.
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
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Villain hasn't gotten out of line. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter CO (t1010) Hero (t1385) SB (t1240) BB (t1935) UTG (t825) UTG+1 (t1180) MP1 (t1415) MP2 (t1010) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t500</font>, What the... [/ QUOTE ] What a strange raise. You say Villain hasn't gotten out of line....what about the players behind him, especially the blinds? Have they been really loose preflop? I'm just trying to get a sort of roundabout read here. |
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
At the 22s it might not be a horrible play with AA, I assume some will call this with AQ+ or TT+.
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
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This smells like a mid pair frightened of seeing a flop to me, or just perhaps AK, but the times you'll be shown the mid pair make up for that. Shove. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I think 275 smells like a mid pair. 500 is just bizarre. I can't remember ever seeing someone open raise 10BB on level 3 for 40% of their stack. If someone wanted to fold QQ here, I really don't think I would argue with them. I certainly couldn't though [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] and was promptly shown KK. Anyway, this situation doesn't come up often enough to change one's results one way or the other. |
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
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look at it this way, when would you feel dumber? a) when you fold and he shows J3o b) when you call/push and he has aces [/ QUOTE ] How is this helpful?!?!?!? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Yugoslav |
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Re: $109s - Weird QQ Hand (LC)
Why would someone push half their chips mid-pair with only t75 in blinds to steal hoping not to get called?
There was only one explanation: AA or KK hoping to get called by AK or QQ (or some loose nut). It's a play that we discuss often making at the lower levels because of the chance of a loose nut calling you (pretty good). I can't see any reason to call in this situation unless you have a read on the Villian. Just chuckle to yourself, hit the fold button, and move on. What did he get away with if you do and he had a crazy hand? t75? Whoopie! |
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Care to analyze my QQ push?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter
Button (t1315) SB (t2665) BB (t1725) Hero (t580) MP (t1715) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t580 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t1715 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: (t2445) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Turn: (t2445) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: (t2445) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t2445 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Qs Qh (two pair, queens and tens). MP has Kd Kh (two pair, kings and tens). Outcome: MP wins t2445. </font> |
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