Ugly 73s hand

wheelz · #1 08-21-2005, 05:37 PM

SB is a TAG, other two aren't horrible, but they are bad... both bought in for like $408 dollars or something ridiculous. No one is overly loose preflop though, don't let the family pot fool you.

Prima Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls (?), UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks (!!), Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (15 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img], Hero calls, CO calls.

Nick C · #2 08-21-2005, 06:21 PM

I don't know the limit you're playing at all, but I'll try to get this started.

SB's check/3-bet is a worry, I think, since there's a good chance it means either a big made hand or a big draw. It's not a tragedy for you if he just has 44, but that hand would cut into your equity. And you really don't want to be up against another flush draw here.

But I'd be staying in (well, unless I started thinking of it as $60 to me instead of 3 SBs and decided just to fold leave the table). I'd be hoping for JTs or something like K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or AJs.

I think SB turn check-call is really troubling. I hope it's just an overs/straight-draw type hand now, but I'm worried. Still, I'm calling again.

SB's river bet is no big surprise. I guess I call and pray, but I'm really expecting to lose here.

irishpint · #3 08-21-2005, 06:35 PM

is a fold to the 3 cold on the flop ok? we dont have the nut flush- or close to it. SB might be playing the set game, which means we could make our flush and still lose. and no doubt we'd have to call a turn bet (although weird, we didn't).

actually, after doing the math, we're getting like 5:1 on the flop, so I guess we have to make that call, dont we? weird...before doing the calcs i would have folded in a second.

wheelz · #4 08-21-2005, 08:04 PM

I considered folding the flop and the river (the river I was real close to doing it), but don't know if I can fold either

wackjob · #5 08-21-2005, 08:34 PM

Well played. I'm not folding here just about ever. You are going to make 2pair hands and sets pay a lot here & you have the odds. I think you will infrequently see another flush.

yanicehand · #6 08-21-2005, 09:30 PM

Is it really bad that I fold here having it come 3cold back to me? At that point I'm really scared that I'm up against at least one hand that is a pair/flush draw or a flushdraw/straight draw, more likely a set... something that will crack me even if I hit, which I never do anyways. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

New001 · #7 08-21-2005, 09:45 PM

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Well played. I'm not folding here just about ever. You are going to make 2pair hands and sets pay a lot here & you have the odds. I think you will infrequently see another flush.

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You saw the board paired on the river too, right? I think I'm calling here, but I hate doing it.

wheelz · #8 08-21-2005, 11:25 PM

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I think you will infrequently see another flush.

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Since everyone agrees for the most part so far, I guess I did indeed play it fine, but I have to disagree that I'll see another flush infrequently. The SB is a TAG, he knows what he's doing, and I don't see what his line represents other than a flush.

MAxx · #9 08-21-2005, 11:41 PM

i don't think you can get away from it either. i agree with your assessment of SB if he is as solid as you say.

Nick C · #10 08-21-2005, 11:52 PM

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I think you will infrequently see another flush.

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Since everyone agrees for the most part so far, I guess I did indeed play it fine, but I have to disagree that I'll see another flush infrequently. The SB is a TAG, he knows what he's doing, and I don't see what his line represents other than a flush.

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I agree. I think he has a flush.