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Old 08-20-2005, 04:24 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Default I hate having preflop discussions

Party 15/30

I open from two off the button with KJo. 27/6 button 3bets, 20/14 BB caps. Easy fold right?
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:25 PM
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Easy fold right?

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Old 08-20-2005, 04:25 PM
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i fold because you are probably dominated by one or both of these players
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:26 PM
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AQo and below I fold here
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:27 PM
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Easy fold right?

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Thanks, I started second guessing myself when they turned over 33 and 44, making my fold a minor catastrophe in an FTOP sense.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:28 PM
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AQo and below I fold here

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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:31 PM
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I hope you remember who the preflop 4 bettor with either 3s or 4s was.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:32 PM
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AQo and below I fold here

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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.

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Not exactly the same spot but I folded nontheless
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:33 PM
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AQo and below I fold here

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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.

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Is that because 15/30 plays differently? I have no idea there, but at 5/10 and below, I don't think folding AQ here would be awful. From the button, I wouldn't. But two off is far enough away, I think...
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:33 PM
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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.

I don't, when it goes three bets and four bets behind you, you have to expect at least one and probably both hands dominate AQo. In fact, you could easily be drawing nearly dead. I think folding AQo in this sequence is very reasonable.
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