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Old 08-16-2005, 09:04 AM
DMACM DMACM is offline
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Default Was this play ok?

Should I have pushed in preflop or was encouraging calls like this an ok idea? Flop standard?

***** Hand History for Game 2544457455 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14886982 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Tuesday, August 16, 09:01:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 39801 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: DMACM ( $805 )
Seat 3: bonhomie ( $726 )
Seat 4: freewill_420 ( $1800 )
Seat 5: jshaner ( $2520 )
Seat 7: muteki2005 ( $1683 )
Seat 9: Toolchest ( $466 )
Trny:14886982 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DMACM [ Ks Kd ]
>You have options at Table 35318 Table!.
>You have options at Table 35036 Table!.
freewill_420 has been reconnected and has 16 seconds to act.
freewill_420 raises [100].
jshaner calls [100].
>You have options at Table 35036 Table!.
muteki2005 folds.
Toolchest calls [100].
DMACM raises [375].
bonhomie folds.
freewill_420 calls [300].
jshaner folds.
Toolchest calls [300].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Qh, Ac ]
DMACM is all-In [405]
freewill_420 calls [405].
Toolchest is all-In [66]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
DMACM shows [ Ks, Kd ] a pair of kings.
freewill_420 shows [ As, Th ] a pair of aces.
Toolchest shows [ 8h, 8d ] a pair of eights.
freewill_420 wins 678 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
freewill_420 wins 1548 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
Toolchest finished in sixth place.
DMACM finished in fifth place.
DMACM has left the table.
Toolchest has left the table.
The Dealer and the Small Blind left the table. The dealer button moves back.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:09 AM
Wevie Wevie is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

I can't give advice, but I'd like to chime in with my opinion just to see if the "experts" agree.

1. Im going to push this pre flop.

2. Short of that I've got to check/fold the flop
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:10 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

With t375 in the pot already, I think I'd be happy just taking it down, especially with KK.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:14 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

Push preflop, stop getting fancy with KK
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:16 AM
DMACM DMACM is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

You mean as opposed to AA? As I played it how did you think the flop was?
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:19 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

You haven't got a choice on the flop, really. That's why you should push preflop.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:32 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

[ QUOTE ]
You mean as opposed to AA? As I played it how did you think the flop was?

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Yeah, compared to AA. I think the flop was ok, but not really that good. Very likely someone has an ace, but I guess you're pot-committed.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:47 PM
jgunnip jgunnip is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

Yes I think your raise was bad. Pushing is the only play I would ever consider here. With t375 in the pot, I'm happy just increasing my stack by almost 50%. fwiw, I'm pushing AA here as well.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:50 PM
freemoney freemoney is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

its fine the main problem with the hand isnt ur preflop bet its that an ace came on the flop, big deal it happens, id check the flop hope u get a bluff no ace is folding.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:03 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: Was this play ok?

There's 375 in the pot when the action gets to you. This is almost half your stack. This is a painfully easy push and IMO a horrible mistake if you do anything other than pushing pre-flop here.

Honestly, words cannot express how much I hate doing anything than pushing pre-flop here. In fact, even if I had aces, I'm pushing pre-flop in this spot.
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