Final Table Hand, WPT Legends Satellite...WTF???

MeanGreenTT · #1 08-14-2005, 03:17 AM

What in the HOLY F'ING HELL was going on here??? I'm not one to be usually suspicious and I'm not trying to be a sore loser but it DAMN sure looks like something was going on here. Obviously I can't say what woulda happened otherwise but this hand but me at a HUGE disadvantage!

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CAROGER T200,000 (Button), Hero T56,000 and mdacemd T41,000

Paradise Poker (3 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of 3000.
Button raises to (22,000) , 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (40,000) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets (8500), Button calls.

Turn: (54,000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets all-in (10,663),

Pot T64,900

Button folds.

Final Pot:

No showdown. BB wins .

ononimo · #2 08-14-2005, 03:25 AM

something's rotten in ... paradise.

MeanGreenTT · #3 08-14-2005, 03:27 AM

I'm going to send an email and expect nothing to be done, but DAMN....this just makes me feel SICK!

Game #931680953 - Tournament WPT Legends - 3,000/6,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/08/14-00:54:07.3 (CST)
Table "WPT Legends 22" (MTT) -- Seat 8 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (56,782 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (41,463 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (200,255 in chips)
mdacemd : Ante (300)
CAROGERS: Ante (300)
MeanGreenTT: Ante (300)
MeanGreenTT: Post Small Blind (3,000)
mdacemd : Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 9c ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 4d ]
CAROGERS: Raise (22,000)
MeanGreenTT: Fold
mdacemd : Call (16,000)
*** FLOP *** : [ 2d 4c Ts ]
mdacemd : Bet (8,500)
CAROGERS: Call (8,500)
*** TURN *** : [ 2d 4c Ts ] [ 8s ]
mdacemd : Bet (10,663)
CAROGERS: Fold
mdacemd : Winner -- doesn't show cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 64,900 | Board: [ 2d 4c Ts 8s ]
MeanGreenTT lost 3,300 (folded) [ 9c 4d ] (a pair of fours)
mdacemd bet 41,463, collected 75,563, net +34,100
CAROGERS lost 30,800 (folded)

MeanGreenTT · #4 08-14-2005, 11:09 AM

Doesn't look odd to anyone else?

I know there's most likely nothing going to be done, it's not like they can go back and replay it or award me a seat as well, but this just leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

#5 08-14-2005, 11:16 AM

It is definitely questionable, but like you said dont expect anything to be done. But yes, it is an "interesting" fold, no question. too bad.

MeanGreenTT · #6 08-14-2005, 11:23 AM

I've never been so depressed at making $2500 over 6 hours in my ENTIRE life! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

betgo · #7 08-14-2005, 11:35 AM

It looks suspicious with 3 players and 2 seats. It is hard to know without seeing your opponents' cards. Sometimes one player can be bluffing and fold to a small bet.

Big stack is not playing correct strategy here. He should be playing pretty much no hands and letting the small stacks fight it out.

MeanGreenTT · #8 08-14-2005, 12:24 PM

I've played against the vilian before and have extensive notes on him which just adds to the case of this being collusion....he'd show his CRAP is he was stealing and how he'd been playing the entire tourney was indicative of someone knowing what they were doing....this has really got to me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I know I should be happy with cashing $2500 but damn it feel sick! I've really been looking forward to making this CA tournament and last nite was my real chance and I feel like due to no part on my own, the deck was stacked against me VERY unfairly.

I know this has to come off as sour grapes, and this isn't my 1st "big" cash....guess I just need to get over and try again!

betgo · #9 08-14-2005, 12:30 PM

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I would ask for information on your opponent's cards on this hand. I would also emphasize the situation and how much was at stake.

With this much money involved, I expect they will investigate sopmewhat. Nothing will proabably be done, but if other complaints occur about the same players, it might.

MeanGreenTT · #10 08-14-2005, 01:20 PM

Thanks man, I did just that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Detailed the monetary difference between the $2500 3rd place money and the seat package of $6500.

I don't expect to get $4k out of them, but I really want something to be done. I did manage to get $30 out of 'em this past week due to server issues and game clocks running while the actual game play was paused...6 minutes levels, we lost 3 rounds and they just picked right up.

A well placed email over that situation got me a little cash back, so who knows.