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Old 08-14-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

Villain is 56/44/2.6 over 57 hands.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

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Old 08-14-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

This is why you should raise the flop instead of waiting for the turn.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

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This is why you should raise the flop instead of waiting for the turn.

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Yeah. Raising the turn is just going to be more likely to fold out a worse hand, while flop raises get no respect (rightly so, usually).

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Old 08-14-2005, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

I would hate myself if I called down top pair heads up..
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

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I would hate myself if I called down top pair heads up..

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Would you raise this turn, then? IMO I should have raised the flop like Jeff said, it's the best way to get paid by UI overs.

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Old 08-14-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

Nah, I´m raising the flop, there are too many bad turncards.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

can't you still raise here and easily fold to a 3-bet?
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

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This is why you should raise the flop instead of waiting for the turn.

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Yes. Given the turn card I still might raise the river.

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Old 08-14-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 6max : waiting for the turn becomes calldown - J8o

I would raise the river here.
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