Trips on flop and capping when you know they have a frush

[Schizo]

Retarded noob question:

I know when you hit trips you are supposed to cap a monotone flop against 3 players. With 7 outs you are getting 3:1 on 2.6:1 odds which is +EV. However, I've seen very good players cap on a monotone flop vs 2 players. Why?

for example:

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

[Quicksilvre]

My guess is implied odds. If the board pairs up on fourth street, you are going to get a ton of action from the player with the flush.

Is this really a +EV play? I'm rather noob myself.

[The Goober]

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

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The reason is that unless SB is extremely passive, its too soon to put him on a flush here. He could easily have 2 pair, something like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], maybe just a 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the open-ended straight-flush draw, an overpair with a high [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero needs to charge all of these hands to draw against him.

If SB is really that passive, he might go into check-call mode if he doesn't have the nut flush. In this case, Hero can bet the turn and check behind on the river, thereby getting to showdown for 1.5 BB, rather than 2.

Finally, if Hero is in fact drawing, his odds are better than 2.6:1 because he will pick up an additional 3 outs on the turn if the board doesn't pair.

All of these reasons together make this an easy cap, IMO.

I don't think that an implied odds agument makes sense here - by raising on the flop, I think you make it less likely that a flush will go nuts after the board pairs, not more so.

[Quicksilvre]

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I don't think that an implied odds agument makes sense here - by raising on the flop, I think you make it less likely that a flush will go nuts after the board pairs, not more so.

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Okay, thanks. I wasn't so sure about it myself, but it was the only thing I could think of. Thanks for breaking it down.

[MagicMan08]

frush are you asian?