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Old 08-11-2005, 09:50 PM
El Tigre El Tigre is offline
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Default Value bet this river?

7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.50 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.30 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.15 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.15 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

River - (7.15 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks

Total pot: (7.15 BB)
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:54 PM
BeerMoney BeerMoney is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?


Yes. He really doesn't have a lot of outs. Most people will call here with next to anything.
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:29 PM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

I'd just assume check it back. Its one of those hands where it really wont matter in he long run if you bet or check 7th here.

Mike Emery
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:15 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

I think this is a bet, but it's close.
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:52 AM
quinn quinn is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

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I'd just assume check it back.

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What does this mean?
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:54 AM
benneh benneh is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

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I'd just assume check it back.

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What does this mean?

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check it down. free showdown. no bet. etc.
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Old 08-12-2005, 06:17 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

i've always had difficult times betting one pair on the river when my hand seems pretty transparent, in that a worse hand doeesn't seem likely to call. though the lower you get down in limits the more they'll call you down which makes value betting a bit closer.
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Old 08-12-2005, 06:34 AM
Bill Murphy Bill Murphy is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

Looks like he was on a flush draw. My guess is the times he check-raises w/the flush(and you then fold) cancel out the times he calls w/KK or QQ. I don't see him ever folding a raggy two pair or AA(he has the better kicker).

The check is fine, esp. after betting 6th, which was the actual "value bet".
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:04 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

Actually, since both Aces have shown, I think the other guy, if he's thinking at all, should be less inclined to give hero credit for Aces, and will therefore pay off with one pair a fair amount of the time.
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