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Old 08-08-2005, 07:32 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

Just got moved to this table, so no real reads. Should I fold this considering my position? Or is JJ too good here. With 13bb, do I push here and come he has AK and not QQ-AA? I'm not sure how much FE I have either, since he decided to raise with a limper already in. This is a Party $30 MTT.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t895)
CO (t3050)
Button (t1775)
SB (t3160)
BB (t2075)
UTG (t1375)
UTG+1 (t1220)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1965)
Hero (t1345)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t265</font>
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

I push here, AK, QQ+ is way to strong of a range to put him on without any reads. a ton of hands raise there and i think it's likely you take down the ~500 pot without a fight. Its too good of hand to fold, and i think too good to just call too.

Even against the range of hands that calls your all in, you're nearly even.

-Ray
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

Normally I would push. However. I would be concerned with the very small raise at the limper.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

Well, remember, this is PartyPoker, where mini-raises are the norm. How many players entered the tournament? How many are left? How many spots pay? These factors might help you decide to just call, with position, or push all-in.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

I think in this position I fold and wait for a better spot. Too many left to act behind me, including the real possibility that UTG+1 will make a move. Two early actors make me suspicious, and I agree that the small raise is odd coming from that position. Seems like he wants action.

Close call. A push will probably either take down the pot or kick you from the tournament.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

Tough one.


IF we put his re-raising range at AA-TT, AK-AJ, you are a slight dog to that range, but the dead $$$ in the pot makes is about an even $$$ move, add to that some folding equity, and you have a +EV move, although its close.

I push here as I hate the 13BB range and often feel handcuffed, so the extra BB's are worth more to me when I have that stack.

Give me 20ish BB's and I probably get more cautious, but in this spot I like the opportunity to gain.

Folding wouldn't be horribly weak tight.

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Old 08-08-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

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Well, remember, this is PartyPoker, where mini-raises are the norm. How many players entered the tournament? How many are left? How many spots pay? These factors might help you decide to just call, with position, or push all-in.

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900+, about 450 left (just started 2nd hour). Still far from the money.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

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Folding wouldn't be horribly weak tight.

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Being (one of)the least weak tight of the regular posters, I disagree with this statement. I think this is a really easy push.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

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Being (one of)the least weak tight of the regular posters, I disagree with this statement. I think this is a really easy push

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Yah, but you're a lag, and I was trying to be nice. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 08-08-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

nice avatar, because of the eyes. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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