One more from Foxwoods

jason_t · #1 08-04-2005, 05:41 PM

I forgot about this hand from Foxwoods.

Foxwoods 4/8 table using stupid $2 chips. The table is loose/passive with the exception tof Klepton who is LAG and the Button who seemed TPP.

Preflop: I am SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Klepton limps UTG, three more limpers to the Button, Button raises, I call, BB calls, everyone calls.

Flop: (14.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
I check with the intention of check/raising, checked to the Button who checks behind.

Turn: (7.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
I bet, BB folds, Klepton calls, one fold and two calls, Button raises, I....

rmarotti · #2 08-04-2005, 05:44 PM

If the whole table is really LPP I don't see how you can be ahead here.

brettbrettr · #3 08-04-2005, 05:44 PM

Read on button would help but I think I like 3 betting right here. A better hand than yours makes very, very little sense.

rmarotti · #4 08-04-2005, 05:49 PM

Brett,

A read was given. These are LPP B&M donks. 95% of the time they are not raising the turn with only TP.

edit: I learened this time and again at Foxwoods (since I hadn't been playing B&M in a while) like raising a river donkbet with only an overpair and getting 3-bet by the rivered top and bottom. These guys do not get fancy. they bet and raise with big hands; check and call without them.

edit the 2nd: They will make rudimentary attempts at "slowplaying"

brettbrettr · #5 08-04-2005, 05:51 PM

Can this guy really check an overpair in this big a field on this flop?

rmarotti · #6 08-04-2005, 05:53 PM

I don't think this guy has top pair or an overpair, though an overpair is an outside chance. See my edits above.

KDawgCometh · #7 08-04-2005, 05:55 PM

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Can this guy really check an overpair in this big a field on this flop?

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I've seen it done before, it looks like villian has KK or AA to me, I think they would've bet QQ. B&M donks are capable of some of the oddest plays out there

btw, I call the turn raise and fold the river UI

KDawgCometh · #8 08-04-2005, 05:57 PM

so are you think the donk slowplayed trip sevens

rmarotti · #9 08-04-2005, 05:58 PM

I think that one of his most likely hands is 3 or more sevens, yes.

brettbrettr · #10 08-04-2005, 05:59 PM

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I think that one of his most likely hands is 3 or more sevens, yes.

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What sort of LPP raises a big field pre-flop with a 7?

JJ seems more likely, and yes I know considering the board and Hero's holding it seems less likely, but said less likely holding seems more likely than a 7.