Lets talk about sets baby

PokerBob · #1 08-01-2005, 12:43 AM

Canterbury 15/30 (9 handed)
CO here is a dick. He also plays loose (limps K4s in EP). Doesn't do anything insane postflop. SB here is a nice guy but a nut. VPIP has to be near 80 and will get very aggressive with draws and TP.

folds to MP who limps, CO limps, I limp 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the button, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop (5 players) (5 SB): J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

checks, to CO who bets, I call, SB check/raises, BB and MP fold, CO 3-bets, I.....hit the gas now or on the turn?

EDIT: I should mention that CO has 4 bets in front of him at the start of this hand. He's also a dick.

daryn · #2 08-01-2005, 12:44 AM

on the turn.. if you 4 bet the flop they will check to you on the turn and your hand is pretty transparent

flawless_victory · #3 08-01-2005, 12:46 AM

DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

PokerBob · #4 08-01-2005, 12:49 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
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Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier?

flawless_victory · #5 08-01-2005, 12:50 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

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Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier?

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PokerBob · #6 08-01-2005, 12:52 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

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Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier?

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Oh. IF I'm in the hand and I see me cold call on the flop and then raise the turn, I am scared. Also, who is to say that if I 4-bet it won't get capped for me, as CO clearly likes his hand.

johnnycakes · #7 08-01-2005, 12:56 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
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Why?
If he 4-bets here, no one if folding.
They'll check to him on the turn, but so what.
If he just calls, they'll check to the CO, who'll bet, and then Bob will raise and the field will be facing two big bets. I'd rather face them with one big bet, especially since the flop is drawless.

NLfool · #8 08-01-2005, 01:04 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

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Why?
If he 4-bets here, no one if folding.
They'll check to him on the turn, but so what.
If he just calls, they'll check to the CO, who'll bet, and then Bob will raise and the field will be facing two big bets. I'd rather face them with one big bet, especially since the flop is drawless.

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yeah it's big now so you've gotta wait for the turn to apply some real pressure on the draws. A cap on the flop is terrible unless you're 100% certain someone will bet their TP on the turn.

bugstud · #9 08-01-2005, 01:22 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

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Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier?

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this is the canterbury. These people, in general, lack the capacity to think.

Victor · #10 08-01-2005, 01:23 AM

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DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible.

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Why?
If he 4-bets here, no one if folding.
They'll check to him on the turn, but so what.
If he just calls, they'll check to the CO, who'll bet, and then Bob will raise and the field will be facing two big bets. I'd rather face them with one big bet, especially since the flop is drawless.

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yeah it's big now so you've gotta wait for the turn to apply some real pressure on the draws. A cap on the flop is terrible unless you're 100% certain someone will bet their TP on the turn.

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they are no draws. hero needs to look at maximizing the amount of bets that go in the pot here.