Hall of Fame

[mmbt0ne]

I'm surprised there is hasn't been any discussion about this yet. Anyway, ESPN listed the 40 current major leaguers most likely to make the Hall of Fame. The first 20 are considered pretty much locks, and the second 20 are more speculation. If you want to see the actual articles, they are here:

1-20
21-40

1. Roger Clemens
2. Barry Bonds
3. Greg Maddux
4. Tom Glavine
5. John Smoltz
6. Randy Johnson
7. Mariano Rivera
OUT: Mike Mussina
8. Derek Jeter
9. Alex Rodriguez
10. Albert Pujols
11. Vladimir Guerrero
12. Miguel Cabrera
13. Ken Griffey Jr.
14. Manny Ramirez
15. Sammy Sosa
OUT: Bernie Williams, Juan Gonzalez, Larry Walker
16. Miguel Tejada
OUT: Nomar Garciaparra
17. Mike Piazza
18. Ivan Rodriguez
19. Craig Biggio
20. Jeff Bagwell
21. Pedro Martinez
22. Curt Schilling
OUT: Kevin Brown
23. Mark Prior
24. Roy Oswalt
25. Gary Sheffield
26. Frank Thomas
27. Rafael Palmeiro
OUT: Jim Thome and Carlos Delgado
28. Ichiro Suzuki
29. Andruw Jones
OUT: Jim Edmonds
30. David Wright
31. Hank Blalock
OUT: Scott Rolen and Chipper Jones
32. Jeff Kent
33. Trevor Hoffman
34. Francisco Rodriguez
OUT: John Franco, Eric Gagne, Braden Looper
35. Adam Dunn
OUT: Bobby Abreu
36. Johnny Damon
OUT: David Ortiz, Jason Varitek, Trot Nixon, Bill Mueller, Mark Bellhorn
OUT: Garret Anderson
37. Johan Santana
38. Joe Mauer
OUT: Alfonso Soriano and Mark Teixeira
39. Omar Vizquel
40. Todd Helton

[bugstud]

I like them writing off Teix. He's going to probe them seriously wrong if he's in Texas his whole career

EDIT - damon is a f'n joke

[Matt Williams]

I read the article. Some of it is OK, but a lot is a f'ing joke. Having Cabrera ahead of guys like Palmeiro, Bagwell, Griffey, Ramirez, ect. is BS. Then he has players like David Wright and Joe Mauer on the list. Personally, I think a player needs at least 5 years of service before anyone can begin to mention having a shot of being in the Hall of Fame.
Derek Jeter is one of my favorite players, but there is no way he gets in before A-Rod.

[DougOzzzz]

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OUT: Mark Bellhorn


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WHAT???

[tbach24]

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I read the article. Some of it is OK, but a lot is a f'ing joke. Having Cabrera ahead of guys like Palmeiro, Bagwell, Griffey, Ramirez, ect. is BS. Then he has players like David Wright and Joe Mauer on the list. Personally, I think a player needs at least 5 years of service before anyone can begin to mention having a shot of being in the Hall of Fame.
Derek Jeter is one of my favorite players, but there is no way he gets in before A-Rod.

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I disagree. As much as I think A-Rod deserves it more, Jeter will likely only be behind Clemens on this list. He is every journalists favorite, Mr. Clutch, and had like 4 WS rings on his hand in his first 4 years. I still hate him, but this is exactly what the voters like to see.

[Clarkmeister]

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I'm surprised there is hasn't been any discussion about this yet

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That's because there have been. Every 3 months or so we have a "what active players will be in the HoF" thread.

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Then he has players like David Wright and Joe Mauer on the list.

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I'm a Twins fan, but Joe Mauer? Give me a break.

[Matt Williams]

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I read the article. Some of it is OK, but a lot is a f'ing joke. Having Cabrera ahead of guys like Palmeiro, Bagwell, Griffey, Ramirez, ect. is BS. Then he has players like David Wright and Joe Mauer on the list. Personally, I think a player needs at least 5 years of service before anyone can begin to mention having a shot of being in the Hall of Fame.
Derek Jeter is one of my favorite players, but there is no way he gets in before A-Rod.

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I disagree. As much as I think A-Rod deserves it more, Jeter will likely only be behind Clemens on this list. He is every journalists favorite, Mr. Clutch, and had like 4 WS rings on his hand in his first 4 years. I still hate him, but this is exactly what the voters like to see.

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That's if both careers ended now. By the time all is said and done, A-Rod could have 700+ HR's, 2000+ runs, 2,000+ RBI's and 3,000+ hits. I have a feeling A-Rod will retire as a top 5 player of all time. That's of course if he stays healthy.

[Jack of Arcades]

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I read the article. Some of it is OK, but a lot is a f'ing joke. Having Cabrera ahead of guys like Palmeiro, Bagwell, Griffey, Ramirez, ect. is BS. Then he has players like David Wright and Joe Mauer on the list. Personally, I think a player needs at least 5 years of service before anyone can begin to mention having a shot of being in the Hall of Fame.
Derek Jeter is one of my favorite players, but there is no way he gets in before A-Rod.

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This really isn't in any order.

[Sooga]

I still cannot believe that there are people with a baseball IQ above 'retarded' who consider Frank Thomas to only be a 'fringe' Hall Of Famer.