Help me with lower stake jerks.

I dont typically like to play 2/4 but.....

I dont know what to do here, I play very tight and aggresive when I am in a hand. I have guys calling all day with suited cards and after the flop 3 to the flush, and of course, catching runner, runner. I am baffled at the stupidity of the players, I am not trying to outsmart them, I am just trying to outplay them. Is a good strategy in 2/4 to call in know matter what? I cant believe it is. I have lost recenlty a ridiculuous amout of money VS table stakes to guys like this. I do consider my self a good player and usually fair well at the higher stake tables 10/20 or PL. I just dont know what to do. ADVICE PLEASE. When there are more than one luck-box in a hand at a time, what should I do????? My 'roll has takin a major hit from these guys and I am not sure, if I should just wait for NO-Limit to come where I am at and stick to local tourneys. I can understand that crappy players just want to call all the time but when I have a table full of calling stations what should I do. Fold all hands except AA, oh wait I did play that and was cracked by Q4Suited, runner runner flush, capped on preflop and flop.

AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME!!!

[W. Deranged]

1. Relax

2. Read some books--Theory of Poker, Small Stakes Hold'em, and then any other half decent books you can find (check the books forum; my apologies if you've read all this stuff already... actually, even if you have, read it all again).

3. Build up "confidence in the numbers." Remember that if you are making correct decisions you will win in the long-run.

4. Post some hands here that you find particularly frustrating to get (hopefully) sound advice.

5. Get out of that 2/4 game as quickly as you can, because B+M 2/4 is often very, very difficult to beat, not because of the "luck-boxes," but because of the rake, which often comes to 3 BB or more per hour.

6. Make use of all of the very good stuff that has already been written in this forum. A great way to start would be to read Jake the Snake's digests from the past four weaks. Give thoughtful read throughs to all of the threads in order to get familiar with how we reason and come to conclusions on hands.

Welcome to the forum.

Your right its F'en 2/4. I do read those books. Where I live I dont have much of a choice on 2/4, which sucks. Yes I can play on-line but I prefer a live game. I am re-reading those books everyday.

I guess I am wondering if there is a better strategy to playing many calling stations in a pot. Besides be aggresive play the nuts and the usual.

Thanks for the help.

[callmedonnie]

you sound like you're tilting a bit. and you also sound like someone who doesn't understand swings. If you know that you are playing well, you shouldn't worry about it. As for posting, post things that you think you may be doing wrong, or scenarios in which you are unsure of the correct action.

Playing against calling stations, and several at a time, is quite profitable. Stick with it, but make sure you have the cognizance to know if you're losses have something to do with your own play.

[shant]

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1. Relax

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Awesome. No other advice needed.

[droolie]

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Your right its F'en 2/4. I do read those books. Where I live I dont have much of a choice on 2/4, which sucks. Yes I can play on-line but I prefer a live game. I am re-reading those books everyday.

I guess I am wondering if there is a better strategy to playing many calling stations in a pot. Besides be aggresive play the nuts and the usual.

Thanks for the help.

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Play some nano-limit hold'em online before you play again. I'm talking .02/.04 on stars or similar limit on another site. It will play just like your casino game and will be a good learning ground for you. Reread SSH and apply concepts liberally. You will lose with of your premium pf holdings so expect it. The pots you do win will be huge though and will more than make up for the times you get sucked out on.

The micro-limit forum is a great place to learn how to beat these games BTW

Yeah your right, I am feeling the tilt. I dont believe I was tilting then. I can understand swings. I am just angry. I know I shouldnt be angry, because these people pay the bills. I am just frustrated for the moment. Thanks for the help.

[steamboatin]

Big pocket pairs and top pair top kicker go down in value and big draws go up in value. The swings are murder so just get ready to ride the whirlwind, play tight and aggressive and you will come out ahead in the long term.

[jskills]

You should really consider moving back up to higher stakes right away. Your good play will only be ruined by the "lower stakes jerks". With your skill and experience at 10/20 why even bother wasting your time at 2/4? You're obviously way beyond that now.

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Fold all hands except AA, oh wait I did play that and was cracked by Q4Suited, runner runner flush, capped on preflop and flop.

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Always fold AA. It isn't worth the trouble. Everyone knows AA loses you so much money in online poker.

[droolie]

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Big pocket pairs and top pair top kicker go down in value and big draws go up in value. The swings are murder so just get ready to ride the whirlwind, play tight and aggressive and you will come out ahead in the long term.

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Big pocket pairs retain or perhaps even go up in value (all pocket pairs do.) You win with them slightly less frequently but win just as much if not more on them overall. Big offuit holdings that are traditional top pair hands go down in value though.