AK: I think I only screwed up the river.

#1 07-29-2005, 02:57 AM

Do you agree? Is the check justifiable?

Villain seems loose and aggressive; only been at the table for half an hour, but plays over one third of the pots (but less than half) and raises about a quarter of them.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

CO ($51.55)
Hero ($52.25)
SB ($65.40)
BB ($64.20)
UTG ($51.15)
UTG+1 ($3.40)
UTG+2 ($145.40)
MP1 ($54)
MP2 ($53.65)
MP3 ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $5, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $8.

Turn: ($36.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $9, Hero raises to $27, CO calls $18.

River: ($90.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $90.75

gulebjorn · #2 07-29-2005, 02:59 AM

Raise more PF, raise more on the flop, call down after turn if he's still in and still bets into you on the turn.

Edit: this means don't raise the turn, in case i didn't make that clear.

RiverFenix · #3 07-29-2005, 03:00 AM

Push turn, you arent folding to a river bet here

Benholio · #4 07-29-2005, 03:01 AM

I don't think I'd raise again after villain leads the turn despite getting raised on the flop. I'd probably call and hope he underbets the river, too.

gulebjorn · #5 07-29-2005, 03:06 AM

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Push turn, you arent folding to a river bet here

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I disagree. He bets on the flop. This doesn't have to mean anything. But then he calls a raise, with only a remote straight possibility on the board. So he must have a piece of the board, and he must know that you have a strong ace. If a 6 falls on the turn, and he still bets into you, what does that mean? In my book, it means there is a possibility that you're facing a 6. Remember, this guy plays about 40% of his hands. So I think you could be up against A6, 76s, 65s here.

But like I said, I would raise more PF and on the flop to make sure. If he still leads into you on the turn, I would be really worried about that 6. So I'd just call down.

#6 07-29-2005, 03:16 AM

well, here's the question that was in my mind on the turn: when the 6 fell, he bet 9 at 36. What the devil does that mean? I read that as he has no 6--that was why I raised him again.

gulebjorn · #7 07-29-2005, 03:20 AM

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well, here's the question that was in my mind on the turn: when the 6 fell, he bet 9 at 36. What the devil does that mean? I read that as he has no 6--that was why I raised him again.

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If you have a read on his betting patterns that says he doesn't have a 6: fine, raise his ass. As for betting 9 at 36, he's probably just a donk making a donkish bet. I said it a couple of times before: raise more PF and on the flop, this will make things easier on the turn.

#8 07-29-2005, 03:33 AM

I can't lay claim to having a read on his betting pattern. Just that when that card fell, I mean that was payday for him if he had made a positional raise with A6 or was in with 6 connecting to something. I had already raised him, if the 6 had hit him, he should have POUNDED me. None of this went through my head, the bet just FELT weak. Dunno.

Like your other comments. ty.

#9 07-29-2005, 03:42 AM

Gotta go to bed. Thanks for the excellent opinions. Results below this recap of the hand.

CO ($51.55)
Hero ($52.25)
SB ($65.40)
BB ($64.20)
UTG ($51.15)
UTG+1 ($3.40)
UTG+2 ($145.40)
MP1 ($54)
MP2 ($53.65)
MP3 ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $5, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $8.

Turn: ($36.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $9, Hero raises to $27, CO calls $18.

River: ($90.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $90.75

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Villain shows 77. Hero wins $90.75. Go figure; even I don't play his hand that way.