KQs $ AJ

POKhER · #1 07-26-2005, 04:25 PM

Standard guys?
No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds.

River: (8.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB caps, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

mwilli31 · #2 07-26-2005, 04:26 PM

Looks pretty standard to me.

OrianasDaad · #3 07-26-2005, 04:33 PM

JT, QT, TT, Q9, J9, 79, AK, K9, AQ, T9 ... alot of hands beat you, and MP2 probably expects you to call.

Without a read I call this because:
1)I get info from the showdown.
2)I only need to be winning 9.3% of the time here, so it's probably a value-call.

POKhER · #4 07-26-2005, 04:34 PM

Edit, added Aj to avoid forum spam.

macdaddy991 · #5 07-26-2005, 04:40 PM

Am I weak for wanting to fold AJo PF for 2 back to me?

POKhER · #6 07-26-2005, 04:43 PM

This is my main question... When i raise... and it gets capped for 2 back to me.. do you fold?

had the same thing with a4s, I call ... Raised... I call... Reraised/Capped then i call or fold here? Fold right? a4s? POT WILL BE HUGE.

Thanks.

#7 07-26-2005, 04:50 PM

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This is my main question... When i raise... and it gets capped for 2 back to me.. do you fold?

had the same thing with a4s, I call ... Raised... I call... Reraised/Capped then i call or fold here? Fold right? a4s? POT WILL BE HUGE.

Thanks.

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Call, depending on the table. if its been a tight table and atleast one of the raisers play tight, chances are you are way behind in the hand. Unless you get a real good flop its over for you. if there has been alot of raising preflop through out the session, i would call.

deception5 · #8 07-26-2005, 04:53 PM

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Am I weak for wanting to fold AJo PF for 2 back to me?

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Nope, I'd fold it as well.

POKhER · #9 07-26-2005, 04:56 PM

Me too now i think about it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Lesson learnt.

I guess i got "Big Pot Syndrome" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Pot was so big... i wanted it....

Results below
Kq hand lost to K9o (Straight)
Ajo hand lost to KK.

deception5 · #10 07-26-2005, 04:57 PM

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had the same thing with a4s, I call ... Raised... I call... Reraised/Capped then i call or fold here? Fold right? a4s? POT WILL BE HUGE.

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This is much different than AJo. With A4s you are mostly playing for your nut flush draw. With AJo you can't be too confident unless the flop is KQT or JJx. It is also very easy to get away from an ace high flop with A4s but not as easy with AJo.

Edit: One more thing to think about here - if you are against 2 players with A4s when it's 2 back to you folding looks like a good idea. It's probably only a good idea to call 2 more against a lot of players as you need huge implied odds to call 2 more preflop.