Come spew with me..

donger · #1 07-20-2005, 07:42 PM

Villain is way too loose(60% VPIP) and passive (10 PFR) preflop, but of average aggression postflop (1.2) and checkraises a sane amount of time (1.8%)

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.70 BB

LImitPlayer · #2 07-20-2005, 07:44 PM

I think I would fold the turn 3 bet

Willluck · #3 07-20-2005, 07:51 PM

tough, tough, tough call on the turn...I donno, I think I lay it down. The river looks good, IMO. Anyone fold to the three bet?

J. Sawyer · #4 07-20-2005, 07:53 PM

i think its pretty obvious hes beat w/ the villian coming to life ont he turn like that. but its tough..

donger · #5 07-20-2005, 08:00 PM

Yeah, this is pretty bad the more I think about it. I probably would have folded if the turn hadn't put a 2-flush on board. Is the river raise just pure spewery? I was thinking that I just sucked out on all two pair hands.

Mig · #6 07-20-2005, 08:19 PM

I don't think he has two pair here I think he has either a low set or the str8.. It's not only a c/r it's a bet/3bet which is showing a lot more strength...

mperich · #7 07-20-2005, 08:22 PM

Looks fine, maybe fold to turn 3bet but its a pretty big pot. You have to raise the turn, and you have to raise the river imo, so the only thing you possibly could do different is fold to the turn 3bet.

-Mike

J. Sawyer · #8 07-20-2005, 08:29 PM

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Yeah, this is pretty bad the more I think about it. I probably would have folded if the turn hadn't put a 2-flush on board. Is the river raise just pure spewery? I was thinking that I just sucked out on all two pair hands.

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at its purest form

ddubois · #9 07-20-2005, 08:38 PM

Why do you have to raise the river? The only legitimate hand you sucked out on is QJ (9 ways)... and maybe J8s or Q8s. There's more turn-3-betting hands you are still behind: 88, 33, T9 (22 ways). I guess it is possible he could be overplaying some pair+draw hand, like QT, or KdQd, and would call a river raise, but geting 3 bet would make me vomit. I think in the heat of the moment I raise this, but if I'm plaing well, I call.

mperich · #10 07-20-2005, 08:44 PM

He has a 60% vpip he could have basically any two pair hands, and I think qj is his most likely hand, so I raise. I think not raising this river vs all but the most passive players is too weak. Also note he may not 3bet a lower set, fearing AA or QQ.

-Mike