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Old 07-20-2005, 11:33 AM
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i have been playing holdem for about a year and a half now and just can't seem to be profitable at the 3-6-12 at the local casino. When i play in live no-limit games at a bar or a poker room in town, i usually come out ahead. i may be a better no-limit player than limit, but i should be able to beat such a low-limit game. I have heard different opinions about low lmit casinos. I have heard its the easiest game to beat, and I have also heard it is nearly impossible to beat because of the lose players out there. This is my first post and I am just trying to get some opinions or insight on what kind of stradegy should I use. Thank you.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:32 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: 3-6-12 limit question

Most low limit games are beatable. The loose players you speak of is where you make your money.

Read "Small Stakes Hold'em" by Ed Miller and read the low limit forums for more advice.

Be honest about your abilities and keep your patience and you will do just fine.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice. i will look into the Ed Miller book.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:26 PM
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Easiest game to beat hands down! I taught my dad poker in 3 hours and he won 800 at 3-6 in about 9 hours.
1st, read a book... advanced hold em, or limit hold em both sklansky.
then, drop big hands!
A10, aj, q10, k10! These hands loose u tons of money at these loose low limit tables. You cannot put any value on high pair type hands. Suited connectors will take monster pots at these tables because the winning hand will always be closer to the nuts when you have an 8 handed flop. i would take 9 10 suited over AA anyday at these tables. Str8s, flushes, and pp to sets should be ur bread and butter on these tables, having AK and hitting the ace on the flop will do u no good.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: 3-6-12 limit question

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I taught my dad poker in 3 hours and he won 800 at 3-6 in about 9 hours.

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He was very lucky. If people could expect to win almost $100/hour at $3-$6, professional players would not grind out much less than that at much higher stakes.

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A10, aj, q10, k10! These hands loose u tons of money at these loose low limit tables.

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These should be big winners when suited. AJo should also be a significant winner. See the PokerRoom stats, where AJo wins more in the loose $1-$2 game than in the tight $5-$10 game.

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You cannot put any value on high pair type hands.


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That's wrong by a lot. High pairs don't hold up half of the time in very loose games, but you should be very happy to win 30% of the time when you put in 1/6 of the money.

AKo does better than JTs against 1-9 random opponents.

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i would take 9 10 suited over AA anyday at these tables.

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That's hideously wrong. AA is much more profitable than any suited connector. The arguments for suited connectors are specious. You often hit a marginal draw, like a low pair, or a gutshot plus backdoor draws, or an OESD on a monotone board of the wrong suit, and then you either fold significant winning chances or get charged a lot to draw. AA doesn't need to hit anything to win.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: 3-6-12 limit question

Umm, disregard that bit about preferring T9s to AA. However, you should be very sensitive to the huge importance of the quad bet on the river. Be very inclined to play draws, even bad gutshot type draws, if there's a chance you can win one or even two big big bets on the river. Likewise, be more willing to slowplay hands on the turn if there's a chance you can get a raise in on the river.

On the other hand, situations with reverse implied odds should be avoided like the plague. ATo type hands are very bad, because you just calling down on an A-high flop with that hand will cost you 3.5 BBs. disastrous. (If you do find yourself in this spot, perhaps because of a freeplay in the blinds, find out where you are on the flop, no matter how much it costs you).

That's all I have right now.
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