Top Two pair versus possible flush

Wizard0965 · #1 07-20-2005, 01:58 AM

As with most PS 0.25/.50 Villian is LAG. My main question is with the turn bet into you do you bet the river or just check down hoping to come out on top?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP2 folds, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

#2 07-20-2005, 02:01 AM

I like betting. Seems to me that a flush would be more agressive on the turn, and you get enough worse hands to call you to make it profitable.

Entity · #3 07-20-2005, 02:04 AM

Raise preflop. Bet the goddamned river already. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

arsixsixwy · #4 07-20-2005, 03:03 AM

Preflop: At this level, I don't think raising KQo from UTG+1 is bad, but limping is fine.

Flop: Perfect.

Turn: Perfect.

River: Uh.. bet..? The SB could easily have hit a Q that looks nice and shiny to him. Him waking up on the turn hardly implies that he has a flush. Why wouldn't he 3-bet you with a flush? Bet and plan to call a raise.

Maurader1 · #5 07-20-2005, 03:07 AM

do we really pay off a c/r on the river? Without a read that villain is tricky, I think I would call the raise on the river, and then say "I knew it, I should have folded"

therockofgibraltar · #6 07-20-2005, 03:13 AM

Raise pf and bet the river.

arsixsixwy · #7 07-20-2005, 03:16 AM

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do we really pay off a c/r on the river? Without a read that villain is tricky, I think I would call the raise on the river, and then say "I knew it, I should have folded"

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Oh, it's definitely a "crying call" at that point, but we can't fold top two here in a pot that would be 11.5 BB large.

#8 07-20-2005, 03:27 AM

Preflop: I'd raise with KQ from any position if unraised to me.

River: SB simply called at the Turn, and the river looks like a blank. I'd bet here, then just call a raise. Maybe SB's slowplaying, but there's no shame in calling it with Two Pair.

Eeegah · #9 07-20-2005, 04:15 AM

I don't think I've ever seen someone make their hand on the turn, bet the turn, and then c/r the river. I'd bet just so I could see something new.

Wizard0965 · #10 07-20-2005, 05:15 AM

I did bet, villian turns over 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and wins with the flush, sigh . . .