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Old 07-18-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Horribly misplayed set of tens

Stars $11, first hand of the tournament. Only just moved up from $5.50 (this is from my 3rd $11) so I have even less of a potential read on my opponents.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t190) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t700</font>, Hero calls t300.

Turn: (t1590) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t700</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2290

If villain has flopped any pair, two pair or a set, he's surely going to be throwing in more than 100 into a 190 pot with that flop. If he flopped the straight, surely he checks or bets less than a hundred, to guarantee some action?

It feels like he wants to see another card as cheaply as possible, I put him on a straight draw and think my set is good. Am I raising enough here?

He comes over the top, but for the minimum amount. Now it feels like I'm being trapped. Should my options at this point be push or fold? I decide to call and then push the turn if the board doesn't get any scarier - which unfortunatley it does. Oh well, there goes half my stack on the first hand.

Please be gentle.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:02 AM
nate_king1 nate_king1 is offline
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

I would have called because...
1. Its an 11
2. He could be betting with anything not just draws or 2 pairs
3. you can still draw out on him at the river.

Just me. I would have also moved allin after the flop.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

Why did you call the flop? Push over the top.

This is the 2nd worse played have I have ever witnessed, however I did something equally ridiculous. You are thinking way too hard, this is an 11 dollar tournament.

He bet 100 into a 190 pot, which he is probably tryiing to figure out where he is and you re-raised him (correctly) on a dangerous board with a powerful hand. He re-raised you. He does not have you beat unless he bet out with a straight (which he limped UTG and called a raise with j9/96?). Protect your hand and push here.

You are pot stuck on the turn, and if he has a 9 you have 10 outs to a boat/quads but I'd be willing to bet he is some donk with 87s and he flopped two pair.

Welcome to the board.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

shoulda pushed the flop, im calling the turn bet too
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

Push the flop and you have to call that turn.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

Thanks for the feedback so far. For those saying "push the flop", presumably you mean after the re-re-raise, not the initial 100?
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

Obviously.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the feedback so far. For those saying "push the flop", presumably you mean after the re-re-raise, not the initial 100?

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Honestly, it depends on my mood, but I would probably push where you called on the flop.

And I echo ... welcome to 2+2.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

yea
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed set of tens

This is probably the worst laydown I have ever seen...you have TEN outs to a boat, you are pot committed, and you have 3-1 odds to call...

You have to push this flop and if you don't you NEED to call the turn.
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