TT 3/6 River Play

Poldi · #1 07-13-2005, 08:01 AM

CO and SB are both loose-passive.
BB is tighter but defended with some weird hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (10 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero..

Final Pot: 16 BB

I think this is a very easy bet, what if i get CRed though?

Petro · #2 07-13-2005, 08:04 AM

If they're loose-passive, isn't this a pretty easy fold if you're check-raised?

Poldi · #3 07-13-2005, 08:06 AM

What if BB check-raises? He was neither very aggressive nor passive.

Petro · #4 07-13-2005, 08:16 AM

In the heat of the moment, I'd probably call a CR from BB and hate myself afterward.

How often is BB CRing two other players with 99 or worse on this board? That's basically what this boils down to. More than 7-8% or so? If he's an average, non-tricky party donk, I would say no.

wheelz · #5 07-13-2005, 08:19 AM

I don't think the tightish not too aggressive BB will check-raise you here with a hand worse than tens after you raised preflop then bet every street while getting called down by 3 different players, with the loose passive CO still to act behind him as well in a large pot. I think you can fold if he check-raises too, but I doubt you'll get check-raised often (although I can see from the final pot size that he in fact did c/r). So bet/fold.

timprov · #6 07-13-2005, 08:19 AM

I don't think this is an easy bet at all. What's paying you off?

kapw7 · #7 07-13-2005, 08:21 AM

If BB had the Q he would probably C-R the flop or turn. What 7-hand would he call a PF raise with and then just stay passive on the flop?

wheelz · #8 07-13-2005, 08:22 AM

There's 2 loose passives that just called the whole way... who knows what they have, but there's some worse hands there that want to call the river I think.

kapw7 · #9 07-13-2005, 08:31 AM

I don't think he slowplayed all the way with a pair of queens or even moreso an overpair. The only hand that makes sense is T9s (less likely as we have TT) and less likely something like A7. I don't know if I could fold this. I'm not that tough.

wheelz · #10 07-13-2005, 08:37 AM

I know it sucks because the pot is so big, but... him check-raising with a worse hand would be pretty much just a total bluff, and what are the chances of a tight player with normal aggression flat out bluffing this river in this situation? Less than 8% IMO.

Also, since he "defended with some weird hands" he could very well have a 7