River play, 6-max

cold_cash · #1 07-06-2005, 04:20 PM

Second hand at the table.

Everyone is uknown to me but the Button who seems solid but it is generally too tight.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button folds.

River: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...?

Talk to me.

Vote4Pedro · #2 07-06-2005, 04:23 PM

I think betting is the only option

Sir Bruce · #3 07-06-2005, 04:28 PM

Betting is a must here. You have the 2nd nuts to 63, but the BB would have raised by now if he had it. Check-raising is not an option - there's no reason to think BB will bet out if you check. You must bet!

cold_cash · #4 07-06-2005, 04:34 PM

You could be right, but don't you think he'll bet with most of the hands he'll call with?

DemonDeac · #5 07-06-2005, 04:36 PM

no
autobet

davelin · #6 07-06-2005, 04:44 PM

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You could be right, but don't you think he'll bet with most of the hands he'll call with?

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I don't see some of your smaller pairs betting but definitely calling one.

kapw7 · #7 07-06-2005, 04:45 PM

Just finished clearing the bonus at 1/2 6max. I've seen this motive again and again. You bet the flop-he calls. You bet the turn-he calls. You check the river-he bets with any kind of crap. Isn't that annoying when you have a middle pair or something?

So even if this gets checked, he will know that you are capable of checking with a big hand. And next time you will see a free showdown. Assuming he can observe this...

Anyway I think he will check less times than he will bet and thus your play seems profitable.

Redd · #8 07-06-2005, 04:47 PM

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You could be right, but don't you think he'll bet with most of the hands he'll call with?

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But he's still paying you off if you bet.
And, he'll check behind with hands that he would have called. IMO, it's a straightforward bet.

deception5 · #9 07-06-2005, 04:58 PM

I would definitely bet. A lot of hands will check behind here but want to see the showdown. There is even a possibility of him raising if he's been slowplaying 2 pair or a set.

McGahee · #10 07-06-2005, 05:06 PM

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Just finished clearing the bonus at 1/2 6max. I've seen this motive again and again. You bet the flop-he calls. You bet the turn-he calls. You check the river-he bets with any kind of crap. Isn't that annoying when you have a middle pair or something?

So even if this gets checked, he will know that you are capable of checking with a big hand. And next time you will see a free showdown. Assuming he can observe this...

Anyway I think he will check less times than he will bet and thus your play seems profitable.

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Miles posted about this play a couple weeks ago and I immediately liked it.
IMO it ought to be reserved for annoying sponges though who have been calling down your UI AK as you check/fold a river or two. I wouldn't do it against a complete unknown in this spot.