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krishanleong · #1 07-05-2005, 09:24 PM

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets...

UTG is very taggy. BB and CO are fairly bad players.

Krishan

joker122 · #2 07-05-2005, 09:30 PM

i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

krishanleong · #3 07-05-2005, 09:33 PM

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i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

Krishan

joker122 · #4 07-05-2005, 09:37 PM

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i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

Krishan

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i think he folds an overpair here 0% of the time.

krishanleong · #5 07-05-2005, 09:41 PM

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i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

Krishan

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i think he folds an overpair here 0% of the time.

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You are wrong. And I say this with the warmest regards. People do fold overpairs. I do it all the time. Take a look at this hand. Pretend you were UTG and had QQ. The board is double paired. It looks like I have a 4. I play a hand with a 4 just like this.

Now I know it doesn't happen often. But the question is does it happen enough to be profitable?

Krishan

sthief09 · #6 07-05-2005, 09:45 PM

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

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if you want him to fold a better hand check raise. betting shouldn't and and probably won't get him to fold

sthief09 · #7 07-05-2005, 09:46 PM

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i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

Krishan

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i think he folds an overpair here 0% of the time.

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You are wrong. And I say this with the warmest regards. People do fold overpairs. I do it all the time. Take a look at this hand. Pretend you were UTG and had QQ. The board is double paired. It looks like I have a 4. I play a hand with a 4 just like this.

Now I know it doesn't happen often. But the question is does it happen enough to be profitable?

Krishan

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if he folds an overpair he's not a TAG. he's a pussy

joker122 · #8 07-05-2005, 09:53 PM

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i prefer to fold preflop.

when UTG 3bets the flop we're hoping for AsKs or something like that? i don't see how you're ahead on the turn.

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I'm trying to get him to fold a better hand.

Krishan

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i think he folds an overpair here 0% of the time.

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You are wrong. And I say this with the warmest regards. People do fold overpairs. I do it all the time. Take a look at this hand. Pretend you were UTG and had QQ. The board is double paired. It looks like I have a 4. I play a hand with a 4 just like this.

Now I know it doesn't happen often. But the question is does it happen enough to be profitable?

Krishan

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if he folds an overpair he's not a TAG. he's a pussy

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exactly. i took tag to mean a good player, not weak tight.

sthief09 · #9 07-05-2005, 09:54 PM

and further krishan hasn't even mentioned the other two people in the pot who, if they don't have a 2 or 4, have a million outs combined.

krishanleong · #10 07-05-2005, 09:57 PM

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if he folds an overpair he's not a TAG. he's a pussy

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I disagree. Look at the hand. The board is double paired. If you are behind, you are drawing to 2 outs. It is a protected pot with 2 other players. If he folds it's not a bad fold by any stretch.

Krishan