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Old 06-30-2005, 11:00 PM
AZK AZK is offline
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Default No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

Assume villain is not a overly rockish or laggy. Is it smarter to smooth call and move in on an unders flop. Or should I just not care since he only has 30 bets?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($1039.75)
Button ($240.15)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($185.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($677.95)</font>
UTG ($1111.8)
UTG+1 ($873.25)
UTG+2 ($851.5)
MP1 ($362.4)
MP2 ($129)
MP3 ($534.6)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $9. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $6, MP1 calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $6, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $37</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $144</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls $145.15 (All-In), Hero calls $35.15.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:28 PM
The Ocho The Ocho is offline
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

You shouldn't care. Just get it all in preflop.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:40 PM
aggie aggie is offline
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

you need to reraise preflop to make sure you knock out the guys behind you.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

That's why I did, the way the table was playing, if I called half the table would have...
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

Seems like a pretty simple and necessary isolation move.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

What about reraising to $90? All the money will go in anyway, but you are less vulnerable to a limp reraise.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:40 AM
LuvDemNutz LuvDemNutz is offline
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

$90 might've been better but I like it either way.
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Old 07-01-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

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What about reraising to $90?

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Very true. $90 is all you need to risk to get the job done. Never know when AA or KK will limp-counterattack.

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Old 07-01-2005, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: No brainer with QQ for 30 bets?

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What about reraising to $90?

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Very true. $90 is all you need to risk to get the job done. Never know when AA or KK will limp-counterattack.

Garland

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If you make it 90 and some1 calls behind and SB pushes ... then what do you do ?

If you call again - then limp caller can push and you are in a painful spot.
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Old 07-01-2005, 05:30 AM
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If you make it 90 and some1 calls behind and SB pushes ... then what do you do ?

If you call again - then limp caller can push and you are in a painful spot.

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I have never seen someone overcall a huge raise and then push. That play requires a lot of sophistication.
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