A few good ideas (needed for this hand)

oreogod · #1 06-28-2005, 05:26 AM

This is against a TAG. I was thinking of checkraising the flop but I thought that could lead to a messy situation (and I was pretty sure Id get popped leading the flop). My thinking on the flop was I would lead into TAG on a good turn.

Ideas?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero....

Henke · #2 06-28-2005, 05:38 AM

I would bet this flop, hoping button would make it two. Then be prepared to call down.

@bsolute_luck · #3 06-28-2005, 06:15 AM

the only way to try to protect your hand is to lead the flop and hope the TAG faces MP1 with 2. if MP1 cold calls (read-dependent), you could be introuble as you're now looking at 2 outs and should probably check/fold the turn.

if your read is correct, the range of hands the TAG would 3-bet preflop is too great to continue with this hand by the turn.

aK13 · #4 06-28-2005, 06:20 AM

I would check/raise the flop. If 3bet, unless he's ultra aggro preflop and would 3bet with AK, I'm releasing, barring odds to draw. I didn't have the determination to do it, hopefully you will.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and threes).
Hero has 9s 9d (two pair, nines and threes).
Outcome: BB wins 13 BB.

Fantam · #5 06-28-2005, 06:24 AM

This was a bad turn card for you.

If button is a TAG with decent PF 3-betting standards, then he most likely has you beaten with AK or a higher pocket pair.

I would check/fold this on the turn.

oreogod · #6 06-28-2005, 06:36 AM

I did forget to mention MP1 is going nowwhere. Pretty much plays every hand, goes to at least the turn on every hand. Well for about the 40 hands I played at the table.

And I was going to check/fold this turn. It got checked through, which was intresting. River was a no brainer when the 3rd 9 hit.

Henke · #7 06-28-2005, 07:01 AM

just curious, what dit button have?

Duerig · #8 06-28-2005, 08:41 AM

I definitely lead this flop into 2 opponents.

SocialWelfareIV · #9 06-28-2005, 10:18 AM

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I did forget to mention MP1 is going nowwhere. Pretty much plays every hand, goes to at least the turn on every hand. Well for about the 40 hands I played at the table.

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If this is the case, I think leading out on the flop is the way to go. Even if you're raised, I think that you'll often be good more than 1/3 of the time here, so you should be fine as long as MP1 calls as usual.

TomBrooks · #10 06-28-2005, 03:57 PM

hero...CHECKS.

backing up a little, on the...

FLOP: I think I'd bet out and see if CO raises indicating a possible higher PP or flush draw, or calls indicating a probable AK.