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Old 06-27-2005, 01:33 AM
cold_cash cold_cash is offline
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The villian in this hand has been playing very aggressively.

He's probably seeing 35-40 percent of all flops, and he's raising and 3-betting most of those pre-flop.

My strategy so far has been to try and isolate him with any pair or good Ace and get to showdown. I'm pretty sure he knows this.

After the pre-flop monkey business we're trying play somewhat coherently/decently.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB folds, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

I think I made one mistake in this hand. Do you?
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:34 AM
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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

you should look at the main thread I showed your brilliant 3rd level schooling of me
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 hand

If 'playing decently' means that he won't call a raise on the river with a bluff, then I suppose it seems like you're unecessarily opening yourself up to a 3-bet?
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 hand

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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

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1) He can't raise the turn, as villain didn't bet.
2) I don't like a river raise because A9s isn't paying you off. I do like a river raise if you'd also raise the river with KK or QQ here and villain knows that.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:38 AM
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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

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1) He can't raise the turn, as villain didn't bet.
2) I don't like a river raise because A9s isn't paying you off. I do like a river raise if you'd also raise the river with KK or QQ here and villain knows that.

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my bad on the run

and by somewhat coherent i think it means he's folding the total bluffs, but paying off with most A's from what i've seen

then again, Cash has been playing tighter against him than I have been, so his river raise calling range prob is tighter than what it'd be against me

I told him i was gonna 3bet him with Kxo and have like 4times .. so maybe its distorting my view of his river play here
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:53 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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I might be weak-tightie but I would just call the river. I am thinking like, if you raise, he won't call with a hand you can beat, only if he can beat you and then he can also reraise.

So, calling is best? if you are behind you lose minimum, if you are ahead, you can only win that 1 bb from him anyway.

edit: grammar [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:02 AM
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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

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1) He can't raise the turn, as villain didn't bet.
2) I don't like a river raise because A9s isn't paying you off. I do like a river raise if you'd also raise the river with KK or QQ here and villain knows that.

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Really don't think A9s is paying him off? I think any A is, counting on the J kicker to save. I like the river raise.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:33 AM
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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

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1) He can't raise the turn, as villain didn't bet.
2) I don't like a river raise because A9s isn't paying you off. I do like a river raise if you'd also raise the river with KK or QQ here and villain knows that.

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Really don't think A9s is paying him off? I think any A is, counting on the J kicker to save. I like the river raise.

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If you're paying cold_cash off with A9s on this board you've got problems, unless he's altered his game (reread my comments about KK and QQ) and not told me.

Rob
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:37 AM
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If you're paying cold_cash off with A9s on this board you've got problems
Rob

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He chops with any ace &lt; AT.

Of course he's got problems. He's seeing 35 to 40% of a flops and being hyperaggressive at .5/1 on Party. Those players tend to have very little in the way of observational skills, I doubt he knows anything about cold_cash's play.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:38 AM
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I think its very good, you are good on the river most of the time

a turn raise though might be better

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1) He can't raise the turn, as villain didn't bet.
2) I don't like a river raise because A9s isn't paying you off. I do like a river raise if you'd also raise the river with KK or QQ here and villain knows that.

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Really don't think A9s is paying him off? I think any A is, counting on the J kicker to save. I like the river raise.

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If you're paying cold_cash off with A9s on this board you've got problems, unless he's altered his game (reread my comments about KK and QQ) and not told me.

Rob

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FWIW, I might expect cold_cash to spot a WA/WB line and raise thinking my river is bet/fold (so I'd call), but I think it depends strongly on what he's been doing (possibly just to me) lately.

P.S. Who doesn't LAG at 2+2 table? Jerk.
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