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Old 06-23-2005, 01:56 PM
sirio11 sirio11 is offline
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Default Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

Event: WSOP#4 $1500 Limit Holdem

Don't remember the level, but it was after the dinner break, so it must be after the 6th level.

The 2 players involved have deep stacks, Player B is in the button, Player A is in the BB.

Player B open-raises in the button, player A calls.

Flop: A55, Player A checks, Player B checks.
Turn: 2 Player A checks, player B bets, A calls.
River: 3 Player A checks, player B checks.

Player A: JJ
Player B: A2
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

Not having any info on the other player I am reraising my JJ here to see if he is on a button steal. Is that wrong?
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

there are other lines that can be taken, but this one seems fine by both players.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

If he's so afraid to play the weak ace, why didn't he fold pre-flop? Pretty poor in my mind.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:19 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

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Not having any info on the other player I am reraising my JJ here to see if he is on a button steal. Is that wrong?

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No, it's an easy 3bet preflop, esp. out of position.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

Postflop seems ok by both players. It is hard for B to put A on a hand that he beats, since the JJ is fairly disguised and A might play this kind of way ahead/way behind flop this way with an ace.

The preflop play with JJ depends upon the stack sizes but I think its probably very good. If I am A then I don't necessarily want to reraise and commit a quarter or third of my stack out of position with JJ against another big stack when there are likely to be overcards on the flop and tough decisions to be made.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:22 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

yeah, i don't mind keeping the pot small preflop out of position with zero preflop FE and a chance to disguise my hand.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:41 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

I think it's better to 3bet and get more in preflop when you know you have the best hand, plus it keeps you from making a tough decision later on.

You don't want FE, you want to build a pot while you have the best hand.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #2)

Player A is destined to lose regardless of how he plays the hand.

If I'm B if I check the flop then I will bet the turn and river
almost 100% of the time. The way he played the hand he cost himself at least a half bet, minimum. If he bets the flop I would guess that A might c/r with his Jacks but with his flop check he likely kills any future action. I don't like the way B played the hand. I'm guessing B probably went on to win the event.

Bruce
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:02 PM
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building a pot out of position in limit makes later decisions tougher, not easier.
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