Couple of folds... reasonable?

SomethingClever · #1 06-23-2005, 02:03 AM

Hand 1. Villains are all loose, but not very aggressive preflop.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP calls, Button raises, Hero folds, BB calls, MP calls.

River: (18 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Hand 2: MP is a solid player, UTG is a mega-donkey.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Hero folds, UTG 3-bets, MP caps, UTG calls.

River: (17.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 19.20 BB

Hand 3: UTG is the same mega-donkey, SB seemed passive.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

sthief09 · #2 06-23-2005, 02:12 AM

1. good though I don't cap preflop
2. good
3. I ahve a hard time folding there agianst someone who only *seems* passive

SomethingClever · #3 06-23-2005, 02:15 AM

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good though I don't cap preflop

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Do you call, or fold? I was gonna call, but then I thought, fck it, cap for deception.

sthief09 · #4 06-23-2005, 02:17 AM

I call. out of position, see if someone else caps, check raise a nice flop. not that I don't like capping. I just like calling there

imported_CaseClosed326 · #5 06-23-2005, 03:23 AM

Hand 1
I don't know if I like capping against two these guys who are not very aggressive preflop w/ this hand. But I don't think it would be too bad either way. You gotta three bet the flop IMO and go from there. But the way you played it, I don't know what to do on the turn, folding does not seem aweful. But I did the same think a half hour ago to cost me a 13 BB pot so I am not sure.

Hand 2
I like it. I would want to call down the mega donkey, but the other guy makes that impossible.

Hand 3
How passive? I don't know, I would probably call one bet and hope for a to see a 7. But if you thought he was passive you did the right thing. If you had a stronger read on him being passive you should have folded the flop.

These hands seemed pretty good. I only have a problem with how hand one played out. 2/3 seemed pretty good IMO.

etizzle · #6 06-23-2005, 04:43 AM

yeah on the button i'd probably cap hand one, but in the SB i like i call against the passive guys.

But yeah the way the hand played out I like 3 betting the flop and probably calling down if someone pops you again on the turn (a fold could be ok however depending on what his AF was).

SomethingClever · #7 06-23-2005, 11:57 AM

Hand 1: BB had KJo, Button had J9o. I folded a winner.

Hand 2: UTG had J-high, MP had QQ. Good fold, although I would have rivered them.

Hand 3: SB had the fxxing 7. Folded another winner.

I think I usually calldown in hand 3, but I went with my read and folded.

And I usually 3-bet the flop in hand 1, but look at the button's action. He 3-bet preflop, then called two cold on the flop. Then he raised the turn! That's a monster 99% of the time.

turnipmonster · #8 06-23-2005, 12:16 PM

I agree w/your analysis, but I almost always call down in hand 3, lots of players w/any pair will keep firing if you don't play back at them. what does everyone think about raising the flop in hand 3? my usual line is to raise flop.

I am interested to see if anyone calls down hand 1, I would fold there too.

me454555 · #9 06-23-2005, 12:59 PM

1) I prolly fold this too. My read on Button is an overpair and your getting 16:2 + calls behind you to spike your 3.5 outter.

2) Good fold facing 2 back to you

3) I toss this on the flop. Sb betting into me is scary but its even worse when he's betting into a pf capper. The pf capper is sitting directly behind you who could raise and you could be caught for 2 sbs here. The K is very scary b/c if you are behind, you only have 2 outs. I toss it to the sbs bet and give him credit for a K when he bets into a pfr.

JrJordan · #10 06-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Hand 1 the fold looks fine. I assume you were waiting for a rag turn card to c/r the entire field instead of 3-betting the flop. If that was your plan then I play it the same.

The other two hands I play the same way as well.