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Old 06-22-2005, 09:21 PM
cdxx cdxx is offline
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Default KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (5.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero ???
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:28 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

He has 9T spiked his ten, or and is seeing how it holds hopping the suit scares you. Raise/call.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

I'm really tempted to raise, but I'd probably just call.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

Thats tough. Do you have any reads? I think if your beat here and raise your getting 3 bet. If your ahead hes just gonna call your raise. So when your ahead youll be making 1 extra bet but when your behind your gonna lose two. Because of this and since the river card completed a couple draws i would just call.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:32 PM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

Call. You would hate to be 3-bet here (unless you don't mind folding if that happens).
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:20 PM
Duerig Duerig is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

Raise. Your average player will check raise you if they hit a flush.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:17 PM
TredWel TredWel is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a backdoor river. call or raise

Raise/call. I'd expect a normal player to check-raise here with a flush, expecially a runner-runner flush. I'd expect to see JT more often than a flush.
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