misplayed

EvanJC · #1 06-21-2005, 05:35 PM

I've returned at alast from the barren wasteland known as pokerroom.com and and am back to the trough at party 1/2. This was the craziest hand i played today, and i'm pretty sure i thorougly botched it. how and where? also, pokerroom sucks.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls, CO 3-bets, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (18 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB

kapw7 · #2 06-21-2005, 05:51 PM

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i'm pretty sure i thorougly botched it. how and where? also, pokerroom sucks.

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I don't know. I would play the same. Maybe C-R the river 50% of times.

Lost Wages · #3 06-21-2005, 05:56 PM

Flop bet looks good. The pot is small and you'd like to scare off hands like QJ/QT/Ax.

The turn action is a little scary as there are a bunch of playable limping type hands that have you drawing dead. Still, if your hand is live then you probably have 11 outs (8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] no good) and you are getting an apparent 5:1 on your first call so IMO there is enough of an overlay.

Bet the river looks OK because if you CR and get 3-bet then your hand is probably no good. C/C is too weak IMO.

Lost Wages

Grisgra · #4 06-21-2005, 06:21 PM

This is one of those hands that you feel like you must have misplayed somewhere, but in reality didn't. The turn is the only tough spot, and you ended up putting in 3BB to win 15BB (ignoring implied odds for the moment, as you may have none). With 4-outs to the straight and 8-good-outs to the flush, plus a couple of overs . . .

damn, it's closer than I thought. You're 4:1 to hit your flush, 8:1 to hit your straight, putting you at around 3:1. Getting 5:1 odds . . . yeah, if you put the chance that you're up against a boat (or better flush draw) at less than 40% or so, you need to keep going.

Note: all math done is approximate and probably slightly (but significantly) wrong.

baronzeus · #5 06-21-2005, 07:18 PM

Well, if you add in the implied odds of at least 2BB more in the pot if you hit, it's an easy call IMO.

Of course, this is read dependent. It looks like Button or BB has a 7 and CO either has the other 7 or a PP like AA or a boat, but this is based off of no reads by me.
EDIT: the straight is also possible, as is the 4 of a kind. You're ahead of a 7 or a straight, but that's it, unless CO is a maniac. On second thought, I might check/call this river because I don't think you're ahead enough.

Grisgra · #6 06-21-2005, 07:21 PM

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Well, if you add in the implied odds of at least 2BB more in the pot if you hit, it's an easy call IMO.

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Given the fact that we can hit and still lose money (i.e., not all of our outs are clean, heck, we could be drawing dead), I'm not thrilled about adding in the implied odds.