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Old 06-19-2005, 07:35 PM
Roland Roland is offline
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Default A slow play gone wrong

Beer was watching this one and asked me to post it. Raise 4th? Call 5th?


7 Card Stud High ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.60 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (2.10 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (3.05 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises

6th Street - (9.05 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (11.05 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (13.05 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $258 | Rake: $3
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Old 06-19-2005, 07:55 PM
bigredlemon bigredlemon is offline
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

never slowplay trips in stud8. Fortunately here there's no one drawing to a low so it'll play a lot like stud8.
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Old 06-19-2005, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

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never slowplay trips in stud8. Fortunately here there's no one drawing to a low so it'll play a lot like stud8.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

I think he got a little confused.
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

Now that's funny. Can't believe those other guys missed the joke.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

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never slowplay trips in stud8.

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True

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Fortunately here there's no one drawing to a low

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True

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it'll play a lot like stud8.

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False

At least two statements out of three are correct [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:12 PM
Bartholow Bartholow is offline
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

Why'd you have to post something interesting exactly one minute after my 2 boring hands?

Seriously though, I think you played fine. I might have raised 4th if I didn't think it would kill the action. Versus a lot of guys waiting is fine though, because they won't raise you later with 2 pair.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong


Roland, I really think you should have raised 4th.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

At first this hand seemed like it played itself but the more I think about it the more interesting it is.

I like a check-raise on 4th to charge everyone two bets while you still have the most equity in the pot and most streets to fill up on. I think that seat 8 caught scary enough on 5th that it is close between calling and raising but in this case I like calling to try for overcalls and not open myself up to a 3-bet.

Whenever you get frustrated about losing a rolled up hand, just think about that time I payed you off with your rolled tens which you pretty much played to perfection.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: A slow play gone wrong

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I think that seat 8 caught scary enough on 5th that it is close between calling and raising but in this case I like calling to try for overcalls and not open myself up to a 3-bet.

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Yes, I think what the raise on 5th accomplished was getting his opponents to correctly fold. This is a situation where if hero's behind, he wants the other's in cause he's drawing to a monster.
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