KJ in LEP/EMP, thats late-early and early-middle, respectively

brettbrettr · #1 06-20-2005, 09:53 AM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (7.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 7.70 BB

Readless. Wasn't so sure about this one. I was fairly certain I didn't want to raise the turn. Looking at this now seems I should have bet-folded the river, no?

jba · #2 06-20-2005, 09:55 AM

yeah that's odd, the turn stop n go makes it look like he hit the J, bet fold on the river sounds pretty good.

wrto4556 · #3 06-20-2005, 09:57 AM

bet the river.

ignore what i said earlier

mosta · #4 06-20-2005, 10:07 AM

I want to say turn raise. I put BB on JQ. I think he's more likely to check raise a T. Problem is CO in the hand. nice thing about the turn raise is you don't have to feel so bad about checking this river. It's hard to put CO on a hand. but there may be just enough value to bet this river. I would probably check. but if we put BB on a J, whatever CO is on his call call call doesn't scream Ax. still I'm not sure I could do it.

wrto4556 · #5 06-20-2005, 10:22 AM

at first i said to put in a turn raise, too. But we aren't heads up. We have to worry about the guy behind us.

If he cold calls, how do we play the river?

I think a good line would be to smooth call the turn. If the guy behind us calls, too, it's probably safe to raise *most* rivers.

its an interesting decision.

ihardlyknowher · #6 06-20-2005, 12:03 PM

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (7.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 7.70 BB

Readless. Wasn't so sure about this one. I was fairly certain I didn't want to raise the turn. Looking at this now seems I should have bet-folded the river, no?

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I think the PF is a little much unless you have been getting no action on your raises from that position. In general, I would only raise this from the Hijack or better.

I think i might raise the turn, but think calling is ok too. You may be WA or WB, but you also want to protect your hand against an A or Q falling.

ihardlyknowher · #7 06-20-2005, 12:07 PM

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bet fold on the river sounds pretty good.

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I don't get this. I don't see a worse hand calling, and CO has just been a station here. So, I think there is a good chance we can expect him to check behind and see the showdown for nothing. Elaboration would be appreciated.

DMBFan23 · #8 06-20-2005, 12:09 PM

it seems to me like the presence of the other guy makes me MORE likely to raise the turn. I'd still raise HU, but yeah.