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Old 06-18-2005, 07:13 PM
Biloxi Biloxi is offline
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Default How long can I go without winning a hand?

Almost two hours now and not a single hand won.
isnt that grrrreat!

KK lost HU to JJ thought i might that one, but no [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

KJs with top pair, str8 and flush draw on turn loses

not to mention the countless others

Is there a record of lost hands I can go for in one session?
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:24 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

I'm putting my money on 3hours 27minutes. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 06-18-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

You single-tabling?
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

I don't think you'll be able to make it another half hour without winning one.
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:38 PM
phoenixbets phoenixbets is offline
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

I have run many simulations using various playing styles for all ten seats and let each one run for a long time. I use Wilson's Turbo Texas Hold'em. I frequently let setups run for one or more million hands.

The tight players can have longer losing streaks than the loose guys even though they wind up with a lot more money.

One more thing: a definition of losing. I am using it as hands between wins. If a hand is not entered and you are not a blind, no money is lost but it isn't a win so it counts as a hand between wins.

Anyway, typically the longest streaks are in the area of 150 hands between wins. I don't think I have never experienced that personally. Playing online at 50 hands per hour that's three hours. At 25 per hour (at a live table) that's six hours.

Statistics are smooth but the real world is "lumpy." That's what so-called streaks are - lumpiness showing. It means that yes, assuming you play decent poker, you might have a run of bad hands and bad beats, but you also have runs of abnormal numbers of wins too.

Win streaks are never long. Four in a row is rare even if you're burning up the table. However, for winning players, the average win is a lot more dollars than the average not-win (hands not played or played but not won), so in the long run the losing (not winning) streaks are not a statistical problem, but they sure can be an emotional one.
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:41 PM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

it happens.

You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile.
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

/ single tear
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:51 PM
mmbt0ne mmbt0ne is offline
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

You tell me?

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Old 06-18-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

thank god I haven't run into that yet [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

the worst I've had in a long time was a 70BB downswing, but I'm pretty sure that was because I was playing losing poker, not because I was taking the bad end of variance. At the time I didn't really understand pot equity and folded way too much for one bet on the river. I've fixed that now.

in response to OP, technically you could never be dealt a winning hand. Hopefully the people on this forum get dealt more than most. Just wait it out.
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Old 06-18-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: How long can I go without winning a hand?

[ QUOTE ]
in response to OP, technically you could never be dealt a winning hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

How nittish would it be to point out that no, technically, you can't? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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