Too Weak?

beta1607 · #1 06-16-2005, 12:18 AM

Button is solid player - no special read
BB is a total donkey.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB calls, Hero folds.

River: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Yort Mada · #2 06-16-2005, 12:30 AM

i would 3 bet the turn. If the button is a solid player what hands are you scared of? AK? not likley he would had 3 bet it and what else are you scared of with 4 k 5 2 rainbow?

thejameser · #3 06-16-2005, 12:32 AM

yes, but you didn't ask why.

thejameser · #4 06-16-2005, 12:33 AM

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i would 3 bet the turn. If the button is a solid player what hands are you scared of? AK? not likley he would had 3 bet it and what else are you scared of with 4 k 5 2 rainbow?

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he could have limped w/deuces

EDIT: raised pot pf, please disregard

sy_or_bust · #5 06-16-2005, 12:35 AM

Folds? Button will often have a hand like 88 here, and BB will have some sort of weaker pair. You should be thrilled that BB calls the turn and happily call behind him. In some spots you can raise, but Button won't call with a PP here and will cap with something stronger. Folding is very bad IMO.

ArturiusX · #6 06-16-2005, 12:37 AM

I could see a mid pocket pair making a move here.

beta1607 · #7 06-16-2005, 12:39 AM

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yes, but you didn't ask why.

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why?

setzf · #8 06-16-2005, 12:50 AM

yeah i would 3 bet the turn too. if hes really a solid player then he would probably raise the flop with a better made hand to drive out the donkey. he might be semibluffing, but if he isn't i would guess he's got KQ also or KJ. given this and the fact that the donkey could be chasing anything I think 3-bet is in order.

If it gets capped and then the donkey leads into me on the river then i might consider folding.

chesspain · #9 06-16-2005, 01:19 AM

Seeing you fold the turn makes me want to cry--since I'm all sensitive and sh!t.